On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:42:50 -0400, Gryffyn, Trevor wrote: Hi Trevor. a short note ... >Maybe not the most elegant, but I like to keep my stuff kind of modular >so what I've done is just create an "includes" folder in the root and >them reference it as include("../includes/includename.inc") from the >scripts that are all in their own folders (by project). I usually use this method as well ... and also do the following: (a) in all files I assign a variable $rootdir so in case a file or a folder moves later on, I only need to adjust the variable and all other links don't need to be changed, this variable simply sets the parth from the file to the root (e.g. $rootdir="../../" or whatever it is depending on the location of the file) >This may not be the best as far as security is concerned since it's easy >to guess at "/includes" existence and some include files might contain >information that could be useful to a would-be hacker, but I'm working >on an internal environment anyway so it's not so critical for me. (b) instead of using " .inc " as ending for the include files, I use ".inc.php" so that they won't display as plain text if called up in a browser directly. This avoids the security problem as the files are then regarded as php files and are "interpreted" rather than just displayed as plain text... >Although, thinking about it, if you have access to a folder above where >your website lives, you could do something like this: > >$dir = dirname($_SERVER["PATH_TRANSLATED"]) . "/../includes/"; >include($dir ."includefile.inc"); > >That'd give you the "c:\foldername\" full path of the currently >executing script, then go up a level (parent folder) then back down to >an includes folder. Add more ".." to go further. As long as >permissions are proper for accessing that folder, that'd probably work. Seems, like in this case the folder with the sensitive include info is again inside the website folders ? If one has access to a folder above the website root, php can access those in that location even though a browser can't ... Files with real sensitive information (database login, password info, etc) into a folder "outside" (one level above) are outside the websites root folder, a browser cannot access them directly as it can't go outside the assigned website root, but a php script could by using something like include("../" . $rootdir . "secretinfo.inc.php"); Anyone have further ideas to improve on this ? Have a great weekend Wolfgang -- PHP Windows Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php