I now this is old and I've searched and found answers to this issue but justa as a reality check.. includes are only done via fully qualified filesystem paths or fully qualified URLs? this is one solution <?php include dirname(__FILE__).'/myincludefile.php' ?> Is there no such thing as relative URL includes? thanks Alan -- PHP Windows Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php