Re: [Wine]Speed of wine programs, Autocad 2000, Simcity 4

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I agrre with this all the way. I tried opening a discusion on this subject on the freebsd-questions list but all i found out was that bsd people (i think the feeling is the same in the linux comunity) are not intrested in games at all.


Radu

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004, JLB wrote:

Not normal, maybe... but this is a ___MAJOR___ ___HUGE___ issue. For every
stupid thing like this that happens, the Winvocates will have another
occasion to shout "HA HA LUNIX SUXXX U CANT USE IT 4 TEH GAMEZ"...

This is the sort of "QA" issue that should be a TOP priority for the WINE
team, IMHO. Games are one of THE biggest issues keeping Linux and other
non-Microsoft systems from the mainstream-- if not THE biggest issue...

Just my 2c

--Jessica (devoted Unix/Linux user)

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004, Mike Hearn wrote:

Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:12:29 +0100
From: Mike Hearn <mike@xxxxxxx>
To: wine-users@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Wine]Speed of wine programs, Autocad 2000, Simcity 4

That's definitely not normal, I would investigate your video drivers. BTW
the issues you gave sound like 2D acceleration issues, nothing related to
OpenGL.

thanks -mike

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 20:53:10 -0700, The MCP wrote:
I don't know if this is to be expected, but for some reason a whole lot
of the programs I try to run in WINE are *morbidly* slow. SimTower, for
example, runs perfectly - and can barely make full speed, despite being
from 1994 and designed for a 486-class processor. Streets of SimCity,
another Maxis classic (circa 1997), can also make a barely acceptable
frame rate, and was designed for a P-90.

Is this typical or is something very wrong with my WINE setup? I'm using
20040615 on a 1.8Ghz Athlon XP with Mandrake 10.0. I've checked
config.log, and there aren't any obvious error messages about OpenGL -
Does anyone have a specific string to grep it for?

BTW, most of the programs I try to run are tile-based strategy games
(Alpha Centauri, Outpost 2, Simcity 2000/3/4, etc) with a sprinkling of
3-D thrown in (Streets of SimCity).


I've also gotten Autocad 2000 running. I installed it from Windows, and after copying all .dll and .xmx files to the windows installation directory, it works. But it, too, suffers from the horrible slowness that WINE is giving me. While I could tolerate a slow update speed, it's also giving me problems with drawing text blocks (They appear when you're zoomed out and are rendered as blocks, then simple disappear when you zoom in). Any idea what's wrong? Missing API calls?


I've also followed the instructions from frankscorner.org on running SimCity 4. It starts, plays the intro movie, and drops me at the region screen. However, it says it's unable to parse the configuration file (No prob under Win98) and shows blank terrain for half the city maps (No prob under Win98). If I try to open a city, it locks up (Or it takes more than 30 minutes to load, in which case it's no longer fun). Any idea what's wrong?

Could this slowness have something to do with a messed up OpenGL engine
on the Linux side? (However, BZflag renders at 150+ fps and Armagetron
at 80+)

Thanks for taking the time,
	Erik Keever


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