vdr-user: > That's definitely not true. I have about 8 different remotes and at least half don't use that button order. In addition, not every remote has color buttons 4 in a row. Plenty of them make a square around other buttons such as 'ok/enter' for example. Oliver Schinagl: > I wasn't aware that the order of buttons was standarized on remotes === Well, could be that not all remotes for each pinchy device might provide color keys at all or in this order. But if they are somehow TV oriented, they follow this order in a global manner, even the M$ ones, if they have colored keys. You want an evidence? Just check out the universal remotes form the big three manufactures, Philips, Logitech & One-for-All, if the devices do offer colored keys, the order is RGYB, nothing left, nothing right, and you should really ask yourself, why? And, the most important point, global standard or not, it has been defined as standard in VDR a century ago, and this is a fact. Regards fnu _______________________________________________ vdr mailing list vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr