That is something I brought up some time ago before I ran into the sub-numbering. The Channels.conf has a way to group by provider, but right now the only place to make use of it from in the program is while in live video using the <> keys. If Provider grouping was expanded on then number reuse would be solved. (1)Confine channel selection to the current provider group would allow reuse of numbers. (2)Provide a way to more easly direct select providers. Remotes don't really have a useable ascii keyboard, but they could be given numbers and their own menu. Right now :@xxxx denotes a channel, :abc denotes a section/provider/whatever. Apply a version of the number system to the provider grouping. If a number is not used, it starts counting from the last used provider number. If no numbers where used, then it starts with 1 with 0 reservered for the provider guide. The new group entry would be :xx abc or even :xxabc. basicly, if the first charator/s are digits, then they are a user assigned number for that provider. If the Provders name starts with a number, then just use a space, for example ": 1 abc". Now start a number with "*" if you are changing providers and use "*0" for the menu of providers which would work just like a menu for channels. Only when switching to another provider it would land on the first channel in that providers list. (3)As for VDR relying on channel numbers being a problem for adding subchannel suport. This is from the manual that is packed with VDR: A particular channel can be uniquely identified by its channel ID, which is a string that looks like this: S19.2E-1-1089-12003-0 VDR already dosn't depend soly on channel numbers according to that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theunis Potgieter" <theunis.potgieter@xxxxxxxxx> To: "VDR Mailing List" <vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:46 AM Subject: Re: sub channel numbering system > So if provider 1 broadcasts a 2.1 channel and provider 2 also > broadcasts a 2.1 channel and you as a vdr user can have more than 1 > provider. What will the channel numbering scheme be for Provider 2? > Will this introduce a bouqet in vdr? > > On 3/7/08, jhall@xxxxxxxx <jhall@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 04:57:50PM +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > > On 03/07/08 16:31, VDR User wrote: > > > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Klaus Schmidinger _______________________________________________ vdr mailing list vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr