On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 01:52:28PM +0100, alexw wrote: > On Wednesday 14 November 2007 13:19:39 Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 03:41:05PM +0100, alexw wrote: > > > On Tuesday 13 November 2007 15:16:32 Graziano Pavone wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Using my PS3 as a vdr client is also my target. But I experienced bad > > > > > (de-)interlacing when watching SD TV using SD output (even with right > > > > > resolution). I am now waiting the new HV xorg driver to have more > > > > > control on > > > > > the video than the already available fb blit mechanism. I did rewrite > > > > > the fb > > > > > driver of xinelib to enhace it with ps3 blit functionality and > > > > > virtual fb but > > > > > it did not improve the output quality. By the way, the PS3 have a > > > > > colorspace > > > > > issue to display the OSD with proper color palette under the fb. (X > > > > > is not affected by this) > > > > > > > > > > Actually I am using streamdev and xineliboutput together. > > > > > Xineliboutput is good to pilot the server side from any linux based > > > > > system. > > > > > Streamdev + FF card + vdr is the best deal for client device (I am > > > > > using this > > > > > solution over wifi and it works like a charm) > > > > > Streamdev + m3u patch is ideal to use VLC with playlist and allow Win > > > > > OS to > > > > > access the TV programs. > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I would like to use my PS3 as vdr client as well. > > > > I'm currently using xineliboutput for my other client (on a standard > > > > PC), so this would be my first choice, but I've no problem to switch > > > > back to vdr-xine (which I used in the past - with the network patch... > > > > I moved to xineliboutput just because I don't want to patch xine-lib > > > > everytime anymore..) > > > > > > > > Can you give more details of what are you using on your PS3? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Graziano > > > > > > Sure, > > > > > > Standard FC 7 (I will soon upgrade it to FC 8) > > > modified version of iwconfig to allow wpa-psk(2) to work > > > Xine-lib cvs (v1.1.6) > > > vdr-sxfe or vdr-fbfe as needed > > > The PS3 is connected to a SD TV set. > > > > > > As you can see it is not something complicated. Apparently when trying > > > the same thing with HD (720p/1080p) television gives better result. > > > (talking about picture quality) To enhance the picture quality on a SD TV > > > you can deinterlace in sw before displaying the picture. The drawback is > > > that an interlaced source is de-interlaced then interlaced again to coop > > > with PAL standard. > > > > If you do that (deinterlace, then interlace again) you lose half of the > > "framerate" if you're using normal plugins for deinterlacing.. > > > > interlaced tv is 50/60 fields/sec, and after deinterlacing you usually end > > up with 25/30 frames/sec.. half of the "motion/movement information" just > > disappeared. > > > > end result is that your live video (series,sports,news) starts to look like > > jerky and shaky.. > > > > If you have interlaced output best option would be to display each field as > > it comes in (1:1).. then you would get "best possible" quality. > > > > If you have progressive display device, then best option is to use > > "full-fps" deinterlacing, meaning 50 fields/sec ends up 50 frames/sec, or > > even 100 frames/sec containing all the motion/movement info.. > > > > -- Pasi > > > > _______________________________________________ > > vdr mailing list > > vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx > > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr > > Hi, > > I did test 1:1 output (PAL 720x576 -> 720x576) but due to bad VSYNC the output > is shaky. The kernel API provided for the vsync is not working very well with > SD content. Unfortunately I do not have a progressive display. > Hmm, how did you try that? with what software/plugins? Remember that you need to sync each _field_, not frames.. so you need to update your output 50 times a second and your output device needs to support updating/syncing fields separately... each incoming field needs to go out in the same order. -- Pasi _______________________________________________ vdr mailing list vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr