Re: [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

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On Wednesday 14 November 2007 13:19:39 Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 03:41:05PM +0100, alexw wrote:
> > On Tuesday 13 November 2007 15:16:32 Graziano Pavone wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Using my PS3 as a vdr client is also my target. But I experienced bad
> > > > (de-)interlacing when watching SD TV using SD output (even with right
> > > > resolution). I am now waiting the new HV xorg driver to have more
> > > > control on
> > > > the video than the already available fb blit mechanism. I did rewrite
> > > > the fb
> > > > driver of xinelib to enhace it with ps3 blit functionality and
> > > > virtual fb but
> > > > it did not improve the output quality. By the way, the PS3 have a
> > > > colorspace
> > > > issue to display the OSD with proper color palette under the fb. (X
> > > > is not affected by this)
> > > >
> > > > Actually I am using streamdev and xineliboutput together.
> > > > Xineliboutput is good to pilot the server side from any linux based
> > > > system.
> > > > Streamdev + FF card + vdr is the best deal for client device (I am
> > > > using this
> > > > solution over wifi and it works like a charm)
> > > > Streamdev + m3u patch is ideal to use VLC with playlist and allow Win
> > > > OS to
> > > > access the TV programs.
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I would like to use my PS3 as vdr client as well.
> > > I'm currently using xineliboutput for my other client (on a standard
> > > PC), so this would be my first choice, but I've no problem to switch
> > > back to vdr-xine (which I used in the past - with the network patch...
> > > I moved to xineliboutput just because I don't want to patch xine-lib
> > > everytime anymore..)
> > >
> > >  Can you give more details of what are you using on your PS3?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Graziano
> >
> > Sure,
> >
> > Standard FC 7 (I will soon upgrade it to FC 8)
> > modified version of iwconfig to allow wpa-psk(2) to work
> > Xine-lib cvs (v1.1.6)
> > vdr-sxfe or vdr-fbfe as needed
> > The PS3 is connected to a SD TV set.
> >
> > As you can see it is not something complicated. Apparently when trying
> > the same thing with HD (720p/1080p) television gives better result.
> > (talking about picture quality) To enhance the picture quality on a SD TV
> > you can deinterlace in sw before displaying the picture. The drawback is
> > that an interlaced source is de-interlaced then interlaced again to coop
> > with PAL standard.
>
> If you do that (deinterlace, then interlace again) you lose half of the
> "framerate" if you're using normal plugins for deinterlacing..
>
> interlaced tv is 50/60 fields/sec, and after deinterlacing you usually end
> up with 25/30 frames/sec.. half of the "motion/movement information" just
> disappeared.
>
> end result is that your live video (series,sports,news) starts to look like
> jerky and shaky..
>
> If you have interlaced output best option would be to display each field as
> it comes in (1:1).. then you would get "best possible" quality.
>
> If you have progressive display device, then best option is to use
> "full-fps" deinterlacing, meaning 50 fields/sec ends up 50 frames/sec, or
> even 100 frames/sec containing all the motion/movement info..
>
> -- Pasi
>
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Hi,

I did test 1:1 output (PAL 720x576 -> 720x576) but due to bad VSYNC the output 
is shaky. The kernel API provided for the vsync is not working very well with 
SD content. Unfortunately I do not have a progressive display.

Rgds,

Alex


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