On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Matt Ackeret wrote: > On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Yury Burkatovsky wrote: > > >If you have an X window environment on your desktop, you could use any of > >the plenty of available X-window oriented editors, including GNU freeware. > > > >I personally tossed dtterm out and switched to xterm long ago, mostly due > >to its better mouse support. Anyway, *term is only needed for running old > >terminal-oriented applications while there are editors that create windows > >of their own. > > Umm, you seem to miss the fact that some of us *prefer* using "old terminal- > oriented applications". If you're against it, why are you running trn? I'm not against any "old terminal-oriented applications" in any Windows environment. More of that, I am old enough to have been brought up on ancient command-line interface that didn't allow for mouse clicks to be understood by applications. I am running trn simply because I haven't found another newsreader as powerful and fast as it. Windows and X windows crap even doesn't come close to trn, granting it has its own bugs and insufficiencies. > (I'm typing this in vim, launched from pine.. from an ssh session I started > on Mac OS X..) (I'm running now trn from a telnet session open on my home PC logged into my machine at work. Trn is connected to a public NNTP server from abroad :) > I've been vaguely interested in trying out GUI versions of vim once in a while, > mostly to allow use of an "external editor" in GUI programs that wouldn't > be able to launch vim. One of advantages of editing in GUI environment is possibility to use mouse more widely, e.g. drag selected text from place to place either as a full paragraph or as a rectangular. I've also tried some GUI to upgrade from vi. I used to know vi very well, customized it to my needs and got accustomed to it. Nevertheless, when I tried a stable version of nedit, I switched to it and made it my default editor for my desktop, including pine, trn and lynx, and have been never sorry about this. I still use vi in non-windows environment and in no way am upset from this fact: every approach has its advantages and disadvantages, and there is no point in being stuck to either of them rigorously. -- Regards, | /^^^\ Yury | (| , , |) | | * | E-mail: yury.burkatovsky at telrad dot co dot il | \_-_/ ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390