That was an interesting read Darrell. I appreciate you sharing those insights into that time and from someone who was involved! It's good to hear from someone whose experience goes so far back to the golden days like that. As for myself, I'm an "older millennial" (i.e. approaching middle-aged), but with every passing year I have less and less of a stomach for the recent waves of destructive and/or stifling changes to user interface "design" that are being increasingly forced upon everyone, such as those embodied by pervasive counterproductive soulless "minimalism" and sterile and unimaginative "flat design" icons and graphics and such. For the past decade or so I can barely remember any updates or "upgrades" from big tech companies that I actually liked. Too many companies (and even individual developers) have lately been insisting on randomly mixing up interfaces and removing many useful features and reducing even the most basic user freedoms down to now intolerable levels. It is bizarre seeing many Linux distros and desktop environments imitate this same stifling shift towards less freedom and less user choice and it is important to stand against it by using and supporting better-natured systems like TDE and Xfce and LXQt and such (of which TDE is my favorite). I don't understand how people actually like Gnome 3 or Plasma. In fact, more broadly speaking, even things like Xfce and LXQt and most modern desktops in general have become almost absurdly computationally wasteful. I still remember using a Windows computer in my childhood with only ~66 MHz (or maybe 166 MHz? not sure) that was more responsive and pleasant to use than almost any typical modern computer setup. I even saw a wonderful statistical study (see https://danluu.com/input-lag/) where someone found that old computers on average respond to key presses much faster than modern ones do! I've been very unhappy on Windows for the past several years, barely tolerating it, but they've crossed the ethical line far too many times recently and so I've decided to never move to Windows 11 and to instead permanently move to Linux as my primary computer, except for using old Windows devices purely for cross-platform program testing for broader user reach. I'm tired of having things changed against my will and having useful features removed and workflows changed and "dumbed down" so counterproductively and so pervasively. That's why it was such a joy to find TDE! I intend to also have Xfce around so I can use it when I run into compatibility problems with some programs on TDE, if and when they arise. A little bit of acceptance of imperfection like that (but not acceptance of having our freedoms taken away!) will go a long way to a reasonable pragmatic computing environment I think. That's why I don't view TDE's potential issues as a game stopper. I can just work around them with Xfce when needed, which is also reasonably customizable and freedom-respecting, although not as much of a joy to use when it works right as TDE. Xfce's use of GTK also seems less likely to conflict with TDE's Qt perhaps, though I haven't used either library in a real project yet so I am just theorizing here. Anyway though, thanks again for giving such a thoughtful and worthwhile response. Have a great night and best of luck in getting your system set up in a way that pleases you! Here's to freedom and seeing the value in all things! "Older" software is often better and shouldn't be overlooked! ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
