On Wednesday 29 May 2024 00:12:38 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote: > Anno domini 2024 Wed, 29 May 08:30:20 +0200 > > Thierry de Coulon via tde-users scripsit: > > > > if you want to find out whether anything bad will happen by running > > > > Konqueror as root, then we will save you the time and trouble, and > > > > say, yes, sooner or later, bad things happen. > > > > I always find this sort of declaration a little exagerated, and funnily > > no one ever seems to answer: "why?" > > Easiest scenario: Some programs use $USER to find their config file > location. You run that program as root. Now you have a problem that you > don't know about. > > > To me there is little difference between running an app with sudo and > > running it as root. If I need to do a lot of work as root, I just log in > > as root (and I've set up the root desktop with ugly, flashy colours so > > that I know I'm there). Letting you login as root with a GUI is a nice > > thing of TDE. > > > > Of course no one should "live" as root (although I did that for one year > > when learning how to use Linux, but that was not a "production" machine), > > but why make people believe that as soon as they are root, they are > > doomed? > > > > People live as root on Windows machines and while this is a dangerous > > thing, bad things don't always happen. > > > > I just feel that this "never run Linux as root" is some religious mantra, > > and who does not respect it is an heretic. > > Thierry If you recall, there were some earlier threads, started by the same person, asking the same question; thus my answer. I did not say, NEVER, never, ever, under any circumstances whatsoever ... Besides, as I pointed out earlier in that thread, I sometimes do the same, run konqueror or another program as root, because it is easier to perform some tasks. As I mention there, Nik, too, (I feel sure) sometimes runs a program as root; and he is the person who first objected to running konqueror as root. I was taking up a less extreme position, saying that it is just common sense: don't live as root. Get in and get out. Don't leave a root process open and available to anybody who might somehow, by whatever means, gain access to your machine. > > Oh ... this is how flame wars started more than 20 years ago :) > > Remember Bastard Operator From Hell? http://bofharchive.com > > Nik > Well, just as long as nobody mentions Nazis or Hitler or fascists, then the TDE mailing list is safe from that kind of embarrassment. ;-) Bill ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx