Re: Konqueror

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On Wednesday 29 May 2024 00:12:38 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
> Anno domini 2024 Wed, 29 May 08:30:20 +0200
>
>  Thierry de Coulon via tde-users scripsit:
> > > > if you want to find out whether anything bad will happen by running
> > > > Konqueror as root, then we will save you the time and trouble, and
> > > > say, yes, sooner or later, bad things happen.
> >
> > I always find this sort of declaration a little exagerated, and funnily
> > no one ever seems to answer: "why?"
>
> Easiest scenario: Some programs use $USER to find their config file
> location. You run that program as root. Now you have a problem that you
> don't know about.
>
> > To me there is little difference between running an app with sudo and
> > running it as root. If I need to do a lot of work as root, I just log in
> > as root (and I've set up the root desktop with ugly, flashy colours so
> > that I know I'm there). Letting you login as root with a GUI is a nice
> > thing of TDE.
> >
> > Of course no one should "live" as root (although I did that for one year
> > when learning how to use Linux, but that was not a "production" machine),
> > but why make people believe that as soon as they are root, they are
> > doomed?
> >
> > People live as root on Windows machines and while this is a dangerous
> > thing, bad things don't always happen.
> >
> > I just feel that this "never run Linux as root" is some religious mantra,
> > and who does not respect it is an heretic.
> > Thierry

If you recall, there were some earlier threads, started by the same person, 
asking the same question; thus my answer. 

I did not say, NEVER, never, ever, under any circumstances whatsoever ... 

Besides, as I pointed out earlier in that thread, I sometimes do the same, run 
konqueror or another program as root, because it is easier to perform some 
tasks. As 

I mention there, Nik, too, (I feel sure) sometimes runs a program as root; and 
he is the person who first objected to running konqueror as root. 

I was taking up a less extreme position, saying that it is just common sense: 
don't live as root. Get in and get out. Don't leave a root process open and 
available to anybody who might somehow, by whatever means, gain access to 
your machine. 

>
> Oh ... this is how flame wars started more than 20 years ago :)
>
> Remember Bastard Operator From Hell? http://bofharchive.com
>
> Nik
>

Well, just as long as nobody mentions Nazis or Hitler or fascists, then the 
TDE mailing list is safe from that kind of embarrassment. 

;-)

Bill
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