hi, everybody . . . first, the discussion of kmail passwords has puzzled me a little. for *decades* i've set up kmail to store my password, and have not been prompted about it since. i vaguely remember being prompted for kwallet at one time or another, usually when logging in to Proton VPN, but that's not happened in a long time, either. in that i've had the same configuration for years, i can't remember what i did to bring this about. what i have encountered instead is another issue that might be kmail or it might be something else. it is sufficiently strange that it might be of interest, so i'll describe it. i use ProtonMail. i hate webmail, so am happy that there is an application, ProtonMail Bridge, that does the heavy lifting as to login, encryption, and so on. it logs into the server, and kmail logs into it. kmail goes to 127.0.0.1 for the mail. the bridge application goes out and uses the mile-long ProtonMail password to log in to the server. the bridge is supported for thunderbird and a couple of other mail clients of which kmail is not one, but the setup is pretty straightforward except for one thing. frequently -- not always, but often -- my kmail inbox gets not just the mail but phantom copies of it. in the same mail run it might get 20 messages with six of them seemingly doubled. one of the two is the email message, no problem, while the other one is blank. the blank one has peculiar aspects. for one thing, i can't delete it in the normal way. i delete it, but it doesn't go away. instead, it has a line struck through it in the message list. when i restart kmail later, it is now gone. if i haven't deleted it, it is still there. probably unrelated, every so often, maybe once a month, a mail check will cause an eruption of mail going back a couple months, and i get old mail all over again. as i said, this is probably not kmail-caused. i mention it because maybe someone here will say, "hey! i know what that is!" and mention something i've missed. sadly, for all its goodness Proton is happy to cling to the "that client is unsupported" excuse. another oddity involves my keyboard, which i like very much -- nice and loud -- but it is a USB keyboard. it behaves strangely: it works just fine, as now, but then after a few days it doesn't seem to register some keys and endlessly repeats others. but i don't think it's the keyboard, in that rebooting fixes it 100 percent of the time, for a few more days. any guesses? -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/ ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx