On Monday 13 March 2023 14:00:41 dep via tde-users wrote: > For a start, I'll need to get months of treatment if I'm to recover from my > exposure to the Trisquel folks. It's no exaggeration to say that they > might well consider Richard M. Stallman insufficiently pure ideologically. It has been years since I tried out Trisquel, so I didn't realize that they had become such ideologues. You might consider giving antiX (especially) a try. There is another person on this list who is a big fan of MX Linux and its relative antiX. I tried them both, a little, and prefer antiX of the two, mainly because there is (or was) a TDE version out there. (Don't know if it's current, but there used to be one somewhere.) Anyway, that might solve your immediate problem quicker than trying to learn Debian/Devuan from scratch. Everything is already packaged together. My reasons for not going that way are two: First, that I had already got into Debian (and was soon to be moving on to Devuan), so I didn't see any reason to change to antiX when I already was liking Debian/Devuan, once I had cracked the nut and figured out how to get it installed. Second (my only real complaint), antiX changed permissions in my home folder, as a sort of default behavior during installation. (Permissions were changed to something like myself [owner] and some other name [group] throughout my entire home folder.) I don't know what that was about; it could be that antiX is correct, and I've been doing it wrong all these years. But anyway, I didn't care for that. Also, back then I was running a desktop with four internal hard drives, and I found that antiX could not configure these during the installation process, but they got treated like unrecognized external hard drives. Again, there was probably an easy enough workaround, but it didn't suit my needs at that time. As for operation, antiX was very fast, didn't seem to be cluttered with unnecessary crap, and had all the basic stuff one would need. Still, for myself, now that I had got into Debian/Devuan, I didn't see the need to give antiX more of a chance when I already had what I wanted. For myself, though, I consider MX Linux and antiX to be real Debian (or actually, maybe, Devuan, since no systemd there). If I didn't make myself clear earlier (because Michael hadn't commented yet), those are also good distros, The 'Buntus I don't consider to be real Debian at all. As for being Debian-based, I would say that there is an hereditary relationship there, but it doesn't mean much in practical terms. Likewise, our bodies contain stardust, yet I am not a star. As for personal preferences, well, don't mistake those for fundamental considerations. There are some other Debian/Devuan forks out there that are real, and true to the original Debian code, but I don't have any current information about new developments; I just hear snips of gossip online. Debian, Devuan, MX Linux, antiX: I'm pretty sure that one of those will get you up and running without too much suffering. Bill ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx