Re: smtp sending failed

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Anno domini 2022 Thu, 14 Apr 12:32:37 -0700
 William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
> 
> On Thursday 14 April 2022 10:18:36 ajh-valmer wrote:
> > >
> > > Have you tried setting up some new "disposable" email addresses? Use your
> > > own name, use a fake name, but try setting up some new email accounts,
> > > just to see if they, too, get banned.
> >
> > Zoho , Proton (MUA ?) : seems not existing on Buster-Debian.
> You don't download them as Debian packages. You need to register new accounts 
> (if you want them). Good to have backup email accounts, anyway, but in this 
> case you can test whether you are being marked as a spammer despite using new 
> accounts. If so, then it's not your ISP or your email provider, but rather 
> yourself or your location (country?), or something else. 

The source of all this are companies like "Cloudmark Authority", that tag your mails with additional headers like X-UI-Filterresults - where the tagging is bigger than the mail content. Nobody knows what it's good for or what's written in it. As the taging happens by reading and indexing your mail it's no use changing the mail provider or email as such - the fat spiders are taping in the whole ecosystem. Encrypting mail and automaticly decrypting it so it's unreadable/unindexable by these companies might help.

Nik


> 
> >
> Zoho is webmail, but it also works just fine using kmail-trinity as your 
> client on your own machine. 
> 
> https://www.zoho.com/mail/
> 
> Likewise with Proton Mail, except that it's more secure, encrypted, and a 
> bother to set up. Others here on the mailing list use it, and may be able to 
> help you with Proton. 
> https://protonmail.com/
> 
> 
> > With MUA Thunderbird, "smtp.bbox.fr" , "smtp.free.fr", work fine.
> > But "pop.free.fr" receives <mail>@free.fr as spams.
> >
> > So, why no SMTP works with kmail-trinity,
> > (excepted smtp.starinux.org).
> > Strange...
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > andré
> 
> Also you want to make sure that somebody "out there" hasn't compromised your 
> account, and is using it for spam. I don't know how that is done, exactly, 
> but I'm sure others here can help, if it's a possibility. 
> 
> It would be nice if one email account, or provider, would do it right, all the 
> time, so that we never need to get new email addresses, but that is not how 
> things work.
> 
> Bill
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