oops, I forgot the screenshot, too :) Hi Bill! How did you manage to get kpdf show the pdfs inverted? This is what I have managed so far: - dark colorscheme for TDE + usable scrollbars - usable scrollbars for GTK2 + GTK3 - almost identical fonts for menues in TDE and GTK What does not work: - firefox scrollbar width changes according to the clouds in Norway. - GTK colorscheme does not match TDE, which is to be expected - libreoffice is always black on white, inverted. OO uses GTK2, so you need to install gtk2 themes and set the desided theme with lxappearence. I thenk there was an environment variable something like e.g. GTK_THEME=Adwaita:dark gedit to get "gedit" use dark theme. If I recall correctly from previouse versions of libreoffice it needed libreoffice-gtk2 to work (if it did at all) - and I remember some versions didn't give a s***t, so probably OO is no different. Nik Anno domini 2022 Fri, 4 Mar 19:10:43 -0800 William Morder via tde-users scripsit: > SORRY - did everything except to add the attachments ... > > > On Thursday 03 March 2022 23:26:26 Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > > > to get Open Office running, > > > > How have you tried installing it? > > I downloaded the tar.gz of several of the most recent versions, going back to > the one that worked on my desktop (then running Devuan Beowulf). When I tried > downloading from the OO repositories, I got some weird files unlike ever > before seen. In /var/cache/apt/archives/ the packages had some extension (as > I recall) saying FAILED or some such. > > But I had previously used the debs that were packed inside a tar.gz, so I > tried those (going back to version 4.17), and nothing ever really worked. > > > > > What happens when you launch it? > > They would install, and I could even get OO to launch, see the splash screen, > then it immediately crashed. > > > Did you try using the supported LibreOffice themes? > > > Yes, but they don't really do it for me. The borders of the GUI itself > (surrounding my actual page) are still uncomfortably bright next to the black > background of the page. I studied those how-to wikis and web pages, got the > breeze-dark icons and theme, but never managed to get LibreOffice to use > anything darker than what is displayed in my sample screenshots. > > > > (I am not joking here. I get watery eyes, and eventually a migraine, > > > after staring at a white screen for more than about 5 minutes.) > > > > Have you tried turning down the brightness? > > > Already tried that, but doesn't deal adequately with those glaringly bright > borders. > > > Or installing one of those anti-glare filters? > > I might, but now that's one more thing to buy, when really all I need to is > change that GUI, and it seems there must be a way to hack it. > > I've attached some screenshots for comparison: > > sample 1 is my current Libre Office, so you can see the borders. Just that > much white screen kills my eyes pretty fast. I don't have any screenshots of > Open Office at present. (Maybe I posted something on the Trinity page? > haven't checked but I don't think so.) > > sample 2 is my Trinity-TDE colors, which is what I would most prefer to use. > It could be that I am getting old and set in my ways, but I don't think that > there is any way of regaining my youth and less sensitive eyes. (That's > partly hereditary, though, as my mother was the same; wore dark glasses > everywhere after about age 45, even indoors, like a jazz musician.) As for > myself, I practically invented dark mode for all my machines, long before > there was such a thing. Back when I still ran the rotten Apple and Windoze > (before 2006), I was doing that. My eyes have only got worse since then. > > sample 3 is a web page as displayed by Icecat. I *believe* that those are from > another color scheme, using the theme that I created during my hate-hate with > KDE5 krap. That would be my second choice. The fonts are teeny-tiny, but at > least the colors are glaringly bright. > > For the time being, I am mostly doing some layout of pages, so I go through > and create a pdf, then switch screens to kpdf, and when I make some change, I > go back to Libre Office for a few minutes. That isn't too hard on my eyes. > But once I get into something where I actually have to write, instead of just > revising and doing layout, it means I will be stuck on the Libre Office GUI > for much longer periods, and that will not work. I keep trying, and it just > ain't happening. > > I am sticking with work that I can actually do now (switching between kpdf and > Libre Office screens), and meanwhile researching how to get it to look like > either my TDE theme or the KDE5 theme. Seems like I ought to be able at least > to get it to look like KDE5, using css or something. That trick using qt4ct > worked wonders in the past, but does nothing for me now. > > Thanks for your patience. For me, this is literally a big headache. > > Bill > > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...
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