> I would say it's extremely difficult at this point in time to run a > general-purpose desktop without any Gnome-adjacent packages on it. The > largest issue is web browsing (qutebrowser and links seem to be free of GTK > and at-spi2, but I wouldn't trust them to support the average > Javascript-choked "modern" website), and your only option for an office > suite would be the > KDE5-encumbered Calligra. > > E. Liddell I can only imagine that these problems will get worse; that whatever I am experiencing now is just the start. Since I have tried almost everything else, I am considering downgrading to Devuan Beowulf, which ought to remain "old stable" for another couple years. I don't know if that will change anything. By the way, regarding "fresh" installations: I don't hear anybody on the list saying that they have only just installed or reinstalled their OS within the last few days. (That cartoon for which I sent the link was from 22 Feb., and my system was still running normally then; it is only a day or so afterwards that I started noticing these problems.) So there is my question, or challenge, if you will. Who dares reinstall their OS, to see if they run into these same problems? Bill ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx