On Tuesday 13 April 2021 23:28:10 Stefan Krusche via tde-users wrote: > Hi Bill, > > > error message: > > > > "unable to change expired password: Authentication token manipulation > > error" > > > > But when I try to remove these pkgs, pretty much all essential TDE > > packages get removed. > Okay, so some more information on this issue. An old note to myself advises *not* to install kdesktop-trinity, as this "installs ldap-heimdal-kerberos krap!" And this does ring a faint bell. When I try to uninstall this package, however, I am told that this cannot be done without uninstalling lots of Trinity stuff. In particular, konqueror-trinity depends on kdesktop-trinity. (Sorry I cannot give more information, but readers may recall that I have a hard drive that crashed, which I still have yet to recover; and on that drive I kept very detailed notes about such issues, and moreover managed to keep my life organized and reasonably tidy; now everything is a mess, and I am working to rebuild what was lost.) It seems to be kerberos that interferes with changing passwords; heimdal must get dragged in with it. In any case, I have superstitiously avoided both; I don't know quite what they do, but they don't suit my purposes. Regarding ldap, that doesn't seem to be a problem with Trinity ldap packages, only other ldap that get called as dependencies. So, if I can uninstall kdesktop-trinity without also removing other crucial packages, this (at least, according to my notes) ought to resolve the issue. Bill ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx