On Tuesday 13 April 2021 23:28:10 Stefan Krusche via tde-users wrote: > Hi Bill, > > > error message: > > > > "unable to change expired password: Authentication token manipulation > > error" > > > > But when I try to remove these pkgs, pretty much all essential TDE > > packages get removed. > > on my Devuan GNU+Linux beowulf system with TDE R14.0.10 (PSB) no > kerberos and no heimdal is installed. For "ldap" I find these, installed > by dependency: > > $ aptitude search "?installed(ldap)" > i A libaprutil1-ldap - Apache Portable Runtime Utility Library - LDAP > Driver i A libldap-2.4-2 - OpenLDAP libraries > i A libldap-common - OpenLDAP common files for libraries > > What are the dependencies? > > $ for package in libaprutil1-ldap libldap-2.4-2 libldap-common; do aptitude > why "$package"; done i task-web-server Depends apache2 > i A apache2 Depends apache2-bin (= 2.4.38-3+deb10u4) > i A apache2-bin Depends libaprutil1-ldap > i tdebase-tdeio-plugins-trinity Depends libldap-2.4-2 (>= 2.4.7) > i tdebase-tdeio-plugins-trinity Depends libldap-2.4-2 (>= 2.4.7) > i A libldap-2.4-2 Depends libldap-common > > This means: libldap-2.4-2 is installed because > tdebase-tdeio-plugins-trinity depends on it and it pulls also > libldap-common. > > I have never had any problems to change passwords. > > HTH > > Kind regards, Stefan Yes, this looks close to my own configuration. I also run Devuan Beowulf. It may not be specifically the ldap packages for Trinity, but rather whatever other ldap packages get called as dependencies; the real problem is kerberos and heimdal. Whenever I have them installed, then I kerberos comes up when I try to change my password (manually, by command-line), and I get that same error message. I generally just purge kerberos* heimdal* ldap* (which wipes out my essential Trinity packages); but then I still have shells open, so I use dpkg to force installation of old TDE packages. Everything looks normal again, no more problems with passwords or kerberos; so I can wrestle the machine into submission. But as I responded to Nik, it doesn't answer the question of why I keep having that problem only about once a year or so. I seldom change anything or try anything new, and if I do, I make a note of them. Bill ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx