On 2021-02-21 10:20:13 Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote: > Thank you all for the useful observations and your opinions and > suggestions. It was all important. I will try to make a recap here. > > On Friday 19 of February 2021 16:08:54 Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote: > > 1. Fiscal host ... e.g. OpenCollective. > > Mike, thank you for finding out, now I looked at the terms in more detail. > > When choosing an OpenCollective platform with the fiscal host Open > Collective Europe, it really does not bring legal entity status, but only > fund management - accepting donations and making payments according to the > instructions of team leaders (collective). > > If we remained unincorporated, as we are now, we would gain a way to manage > our fund - accept donations, pay expenses - nothing more. For ownership of > things like domain names, trademarks, we continue to have to deal with > this on a personal level with team members. > > If we conclude that we should incorporate, then this choice alone is not a > sufficient solution. There would be a possibility of a combination - to > create your own legal entity and enter into an agreement between Open > Collective Europe and our entity. The question is whether using the Open > Collective platform would provide an advantage at the cost of fees. > > > 2a. A company that focuses on providing legal status - sfconservancy > > The SF Conservancy seems to be very credible and could probably be a good > support for us. The patronage of a well-known company, which is also a > representative of major open source projects, could be discouraging for > possible patent trolls and similar harmful creatures. Here, however, it > would depend on whether SF Conservancy would be interested in us becoming > a member project. The disadvantage seems to be that it is bound by US law. > We have to decide whether, despite this fact, we want to try this way or > not? > > > 2a. A company that focuses on providing legal status - dyne > > There is a clear consensus here - dyne.org seems very untrustworthy - we > don't want to go that way. > > > 2c. A company that focuses on providing legal status - OpenCollective > > I'm adding OpenCollective here as variant 2c, because when choosing > OpenCollective with the fiscal host Open Source Collective, it provides > the services of a legal entity similar to SF Conservancy, not just fund > management. Although there is good transparency in fund management, SF > Conservancy seems more specialized and can offer a stronger background. > However, there is the same disadvantage - it is bound by US law. > Therefore, the same question as for 2a: Do we want to be bound by US law? > > > 3. Our own non-profit organization. > > I was worried that this could be an obstacle to creating a legal entity in > the Czech Republic - it will be necessary to use Czech when dealing with > the authorities. On the other hand, if we wanted to create a non-profit > organization in the EU, we would still have to choose a specific country, > so why not CZ, because when choosing another country, it will be a another > language that will be needed. > > I researched the possibilities here. According to the current law, we have > an option called "spolek" or "zapsaný spolek" ("registered association" - > allowed abbreviation "z.s."). It is an association of three or more > persons, which has its own statutes and acts as a legal entity. The > members of the association are not liable for its debts. > > I also researched what the account management options are here. The local > bank Fio.cz provides a Transparent Account. Such an account allows free > viewing of transactions on the account. Account management and operations > fees are minimal - basically the only fee is for payment outside the EU. > > > > > Again, I ask for your observations and comments. > Currently the basic questions I see: > > 1) Do we want to try to address the SF Conservancy, even if it means being > bound by US law? > > 2) If so, but SF Conservancy rejects us, do we want to become a member of > the Open Source Collective? > > 3) If we want to avoid US law, do we want to continue as unregistered - > only as a virtual team with Open Collective Europe? > > 4) Or we don't want any of the above - do we want our own legal entity? > > Thank you! > > Cheers Since, as you say, "...has its own statutes and acts as a legal entity", I think that 4) is probably the best way to go. It sounds to me like the overheads (non-coding activity) will be minimized with this case. Writing those statutes might be the hardest part. :-) Leslie -- openSUSE Leap 15.2 x86_64 Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.0.9 tde-config: 1.0 ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx