Re: Konqueror & FAT32

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Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 16:17:10 -0500
 BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit:
> > As usual, the moment you press "send" you find the solution :)
> > 
> > Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 21:46:46 +0100
> >  Dr. Nikolaus Klepp scripsit:
> > > Hi all!
> > > 
> > > Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 14:57:00 -0500
> > >  BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit:
> > > > > On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi all!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the
> > > > > > > > "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on 
> at file
> > > > > > > > on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with 
> the
> > > > > > > > "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key consequently des 
> not
> > > > > > > > delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan. 
> Pressing "<shift>+<DEL>"
> > > > > > > > deletes the file.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does somebody else see this, too?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nik
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem.
> > > > > > > Everything works the same as before.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and 
> the 
> > > > fat32
> > > > > > > filesystem. I've had problems with both flash drives and SD cards:
> > > > > > > sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you 
> have the
> > > > > > > delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat drives, 
> such 
> > > > as
> > > > > > > your
> > > > > >
> > > > > > other
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > hard drives?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function 
> can be
> > > > > > > set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by 
> changing
> > > > > > > that file.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > ____________________________________________________
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients 
> (thankfully
> > > > > > that's fading)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in 
> general.
> > > > > > That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never have 
> a
> > > > > > problem after that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give 
> me
> > > > > > much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to 
> your
> > > > > > user just in case.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kate
> > > > > 
> > > > > Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices that 
> do 
> > > > not 
> > > > > read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in smartphones, or flash drives 
> to be 
> > > > > used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced by 
> job or 
> > > > > circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use them on 
> > > > > [*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases, fat32 
> is 
> > > > read 
> > > > > by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having 
> to 
> > > > format 
> > > > > it to a Linux filesystem. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > :-/
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bill
> > > > You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will 
> work on 
> > > > windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux does 
> > > > a "clean" format with no empty  spaces or oddities.
> > > > 
> > > > Kate
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> > > 
> > > Sorry to say, neither does work. I tried it as "superdisk" or with one 
> partion, the result is the same - "Move to trash" is greyed out and <DEL> 
> does not work (<shift>+<DEL> does work).
> > > 
> > > I tried ext4, too, with the very same behaviour, so it's not filesystem 
> specific. File creation works without problems.
> > > 
> > > What's also strange: the konqeror is not notified about changes on that 
> filesystem, e.g. if I create a new file it is not visible in konqueror till I 
> press "F5".
> > > 
> > > Oh, I have "udisks2" as helper.
> > 
> > 
> > Ok, in konqueror settings, tab "behaviour" --> "show delete entry (no 
> trash)". if this is checked, I get a "Delete" entry in the context menu. This 
> still does not enable "<del>"-key, but for the "usual" user it's ok.
> > 
> > Interestingly I cannot identify the corresponding setting 
> in .trinity/share/config/konquerorrc
> > 
> > Nik
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Nik
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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> with the NSA, CIA ...
> > ____________________________________________________
> " What's also strange: the konqeror is not notified about changes on that 
> filesystem, e.g. if I create a new file it is not visible in konqueror till I 
> press "F5"."
> 
> When is the last time you rebooted X or the entire computer?
> I'd reboot the computer. The F5 thing happens after a large update (at least 
> in my exp). Try a reboot.

I power it off when not used and turn it on when I need it (bootime <30sec), so it' up just some hours.

Nik

> 
> Kate
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