On Sunday 20 December 2020 09:02:15 Gene Heskett via tde-users wrote: > On Sunday 20 December 2020 10:50:44 Michael via tde-users wrote: > > On Saturday 19 December 2020 07:39:34 pm Gene Heskett via tde-users > > wrote: > > > On Saturday 19 December 2020 19:15:47 Michael via tde-users wrote: > > > > On Saturday 19 December 2020 11:15:43 am Michael via tde-users > > wrote: > > > > > On Saturday 19 December 2020 08:34:37 am Gene Heskett via > > > > > tde-users > > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Saturday 19 December 2020 03:32:07 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gene, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for posting the dcop commands, I’ve been meaning to add > > > > > similar to my local nightly backup for awhile. > > > > > > > > > > On the permissions issue: > > > > > > > > > > Use sudo, basically the same as using sudo for yourusername to > > > > > root, but replace root with yourusername and yourusername with > > > > > amanada. And then get sudo to run without password. > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > https://www.golinuxhub.com/2013/12/how-to-give-permission-to-use > > > > >r-to -run/ - https://linuxhandbook.com/sudo-without-password/ > > > > > > This second URL showed me how to edit the sudoers file and add this: > > > > > > amanda ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/opt/trinity/bin/dcop > > > > > > But it still fails: > > > root@coyote:~$ su amanda -c "/opt/trinity/bin/dcop --user gene > > > --all-sessions kmail KMailIface resumeBackgroundJobs" > > > > sudo NOT su... Read the first link, they go together... AFIK, you'll > > need to reformat the whole command for sudo (as it is not the same > > format as su). > > > > Don't run as root either! Run it as plain amanda, even if you have to > > stick it in a test script and add it to amanda cron to kick it off. > > No, since they've built a paranoid security wall between me and anybody > else, I'll run it as me. > > > Do use visudo to edit sudoers, it will use whatever editor* you have > > exported, e.g.: > > > > export EDITOR=nano > > > > * I know I’m a heathen heretic, I hate vi… > > 22 years ago I thought vi was the cats meow, then I found gedit, but > gedit screwed me one too many times with its habit of 52 pickup file > scrambling, so now I use nano or geany, neither has ever eaten my lunch, > gedit has been banned, rm'd when I find pieces of it still sneaking > around. vi I haven't used recently enough to even remember how to get in > and out of the edit mode, or to save and quit. And typing help doesn't > include those very vital commands. Or even how to close the help screen. > > We used to have a saying in the amiga world, never ever allow the coder > to write the docs, he is so familiar with how it works he thinks > everyone is as familiar with it as he is, so the docs start with the > rust spots on the gears, not with what the gears actually do. So we had > another saying about when the code was finished, because somebody shot > the coder. > > The best language we ever had on the amiga was Arexx, but Bill Hawes, who > wrote it, never got a dime from amiga, yet there was nothing the amiga > could do that you couldn't do from an Arexx script. > > The amigados, any version, never had a cron, but we needed to keep it > busy in the middle of the night doing video production work, so Jim > Hines and I wrote ezcron, in Arexx because it had a sleep command and > didn't have to busywait. Not only that, we could calculate how long it > had to sleep to wake up in the exact first tick of the next minute > regardless of what time it was. We even used that to pop up a station > ID in the first second of the hour. We even had a web page served up > with an amiga, months before the major networks discovered it. Wasn't > much, but you could dial it up and read the same teleprompter scripts > our news anchors had read on the air 10 minutes before. > > Being a medium market tv broadcaster was fun in those days 25 to 35 years > ago. > > > Best, > > Michael Amiga, a blast from the past! That was my very first computer thingie, back in, um, 1984? But for me it was just a glorified typewriter, as I never saw the need to get geeky until I got on the Internet and had a few bad experiences, enough to wise up a little. Bill ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx