On Thursday 23 July 2020 12:42:37 pm Slávek Banko wrote: > On Thursday 23 of July 2020 19:32:56 Michael wrote: > > On Thursday 23 July 2020 09:55:38 am Slávek Banko wrote: > > > On Thursday 23 of July 2020 16:46:21 Michael wrote: > > > > On Thursday 23 July 2020 06:07:25 am Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > > > Anno domini 2020 Mon, 20 Jul 13:23:27 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > Michael scripsit: > > > > > > On Monday 20 July 2020 12:28:48 pm Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > > > > > Anno domini 2020 Mon, 20 Jul 11:31:17 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael scripsit: > > > > > > > > On Sunday 19 July 2020 07:21:09 pm Michael wrote: > > > > > > > > > This seems too easy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ########### > > > > > > > > > by dolphin_oracle » Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:05 pm > > > > > > > > > the files that we use to define what's in > > > > > > > > > mx-packageinstaller->popular apps are XML files. there are > > > > > > > > > even places for screenshots, pre and post install scripts > > > > > > > > > if extra steps are needed, like adding repos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/MX-Linux/mx-packageinstaller-pkglist > > > > > > > > > ########### > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I found 4 examples with external repositories > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/MX-Linux/mx-packageinstaller-pkglist/se > > > > > > > > >arch ?q=re posi tory &unscoped_q=repository > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me ‘spotify_64.pm’ seems the closest match to what I > > > > > > > > > believe we’d want. ‘airvpn.pm’ is the most complex, > > > > > > > > > probably good for example/reference. In any event I > > > > > > > > > copy/pasted/edited what I could (attached as tde_64.pm). > > > > > > > > > Which probably needs to go into the TDE git somewhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Things that definitely need checking: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - <installable> architecture(s) (I picked 64, not > > > > > > > > > completely sure that’s correct). > > > > > > > > > - method/place for # Import GPG signing key. (needs > > > > > > > > > review by MX dev). - when to use sudo and when it’s not > > > > > > > > > needed (got no real clue why some commands use it). > > > > > > > > > - <description> needs an official English description and > > > > > > > > > then as many translations as we can do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We also need a TDE developer to interface with > > > > > > > > > dolphin_oracle directly for the ‘official’ request to add > > > > > > > > > it to their system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anything else I can help with let me know, > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Updated .pm per dolphin_oracle comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Could use newer screenshot(s) posted to: > > > > > > > > - - https://www.trinitydesktop.org/screenshots.php > > > > > > > > - - All those are from 2014. > > > > > > > > - - If at all possible do one similar to > > > > > > > > https://www.trinitydesktop.org/media/screenshots/large/tde1. > > > > > > > >png so that it includes the full, visible, "The Trinity > > > > > > > > Desktop is a full software desktop..." paragraph. (but > > > > > > > > possibly I don’t understand the use of that screenshot, so > > > > > > > > maybe not?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - .pm should be renamed to tde.pm if TDE is all > > > > > > > > architecture. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?f=93&t=59309 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ########### > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by dolphin_oracle » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:13 pm > > > > > > > > you don't need sudo anywhere. the script runs elevated > > > > > > > > already. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if your packages are 64bit only, the 64 is appropriate. If > > > > > > > > you also have 32 bit packages, then "all" is appropriate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will want to run an apt-get update in the post-uninstall > > > > > > > > area since you are removing a list. typically I don't remove > > > > > > > > list files unless there is a chance of some conflict, in > > > > > > > > which case they should not be left enabled at all. > > > > > > > > (deb-multimedia is an example here, good packages, but > > > > > > > > leaving the repo enabled is bad for mx). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for the key, download into /tmp instead of /root. remove the > > > > > > > > temporary downloaded deb after install. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we prefer the deb-src entries to be commented out by > > > > > > > > default. our debian.list file is a good example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ########### > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ screenshots: there where a number of newer ones on the site, > > > > > > > too. I remember that some of my FreeBSD box where there, too, > > > > > > > as TDE does quite nicely on FreeBSD these days. Don't know > > > > > > > when they vanished, where and why. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hopefully last edit of the .pm by me... > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm scheduled to test it next weekend, I'll update to the list > > > > > > next then (these minor edits are getting spammy, so see the MX > > > > > > formum post till then) > > > > > > > > > > > > best all, michael.. > > > > > > > > > > Hi Michael, > > > > > > > > > > When I have MX installed, whet do I do with that tde.pm ? > > > > > > > > Hi Nik, > > > > > > > > Notes: > > > > 1) This has not been tested! Do scan for typo’s before use. (wget > > > > line was tested) > > > > 2) I’ve set the attached .pm for 64 bit architectures. (change as > > > > needed) 3) AFAIK this only works if you’ve installed the full MX. > > > > (so you’ll already have Xfce4 installed) > > > > > > > > After the MX install, drop it in: > > > > > > > > /usr/share/mx-packageinstaller-pkglist > > > > -rw-r--r-- root root > > > > > > > > Then from Xfce4 > > > > > > > > Menu >> MX Tools >> MX Package Installer > > > > {Tab} Popular Applications > > > > {Expand} Desktop Environments > > > > {Check} Trinity Desktop Environment > > > > {Click} Install > > > > > > > > Logout of Xfce4 > > > > Login TDE > > > > {set default window manager, etc.} > > > > > > > > I think that’s it. Let me know how it goes :) > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > Notes continued: > > > > 4) Still needs translations of the description. > > > > 5) Has several extra, extraneous comments. > > > > > > > > Ref: > > > > https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?p=587347#p587347 > > > > > > Is it necessary to have files for each architecture? Is it possible > > > for one file to provide that information for all architectures? > > > > > > I haven't looked at what architectures are supported in MX, but I > > > assume we provide packages for all the needed architectures. Because > > > the repository URL is the same for all architectures, and therefore > > > the same GPG key, it seems unnecessary to create multiple files that > > > will contain the same data, only with a difference for the > > > architecture. > > > > Hi Slávek, > > > > That was one of my questions earlier in this thread, "What architecture > > is TDE?" Based on above, I'm changing it to 'all.' > > You can see the list of architectures on the wiki: > https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst >ructions > > For Ubuntu, the list of available architectures is smaller: > https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Ubuntu_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst >ructions > > Cheers Yes I know that page is there, that's what I wrote the .pm from... > 10.x - buster : amd64, i386, armel, armhf, arm64, ppc64el "amd64, i386, armel, armhf, arm64, ppc64el" means nothing to 99% of computer users, myself included. I, and pretty much everyone I've ever known, who's not basically a kernel developer goes: "It said '10.x - buster' that must be what I need." - or - "I have an AMD 64 bit processor, it said so on the box, so lets pick 'amd64' and try." No offense but that page might as well have random letters after ‘buster’ to the normal user. 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