Re: [quite OT] [but important] TDE shirts

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On Sunday 26 April 2020 10:07:23 Michael wrote:
> Hi All,  {snip it all!}
>
> Let’s work together, not against each other.  We seem to be [excessively?]
> debating over details that, in the big picture, aren’t that productive.
>
> Bullet pointing [as I see it]:
>
> - We all want to be able to use TDE [for the rest of our lives].
> - NO one is going to be asked to deal with issues they don’t want to deal
> with.
> - A clearer definition of the TDE structure seems to be something [most?]
> of us want.
> - A clearer definition of the TDE structure is something some of us need
> [for taxes].
> - The release of TDE R14.0.8 is more important than this discussion [in the
> short term].
> - - To that end no decision can be made until well after .8 is released [so
> everyone can catch up].
>
> If we can “leave the project as a team and use a fiscal host” that would be
> the easiest and most convenient and seems to solve all our short term
> needs. If at some later date, it’s not working out the way we want, we can
> move to a more independent structure.  Unfortunately we don’t have enough
> hard information about what a ‘fiscal host’ is or does, but that
> information can be gathered prior to .8 being released [by people not
> involved in .8].
>
> # # #
>
> I’m asking for a single volunteer for the below, so that the info dig isn’t
> repeated a dozen times and gitea isn’t bombarded with the same question(s)
> from a dozen people.  In that respect would someone, besides Slávek ;),
> volunteer to dig through the:
>
> https://opencollective.com/gitea/
>
> documentation and summarize for the rest of us [please include reference
> links!] how gitea:
>
> - Explicitly exempts TDE from needing a legal structure of its own.
> - What TDE needs to do to join.
> - What, if any, other requirements need to be met:
> - - For joining
> - - For ongoing membership
> - Does using gitea constrain TDE from becoming independent later?
>
> # # #
>
> First to volunteer by timestamp gets it?  But do wait a day or so before
> info digging so everyone else (who’s interested) can add whatever else they
> think we might need to know about gitea before we ‘join’ them.
>
> And as several other have noted, this is important to TDE, but it’s sucking
> way too much of my time atm...
>
> Best All!,
> Michael
>

We ought to create an online forum (once we get through this, after the 
official release, etc.) where we can talk about whatever we want, TDE-related 
or not, technical or not, so that the mailing list can be kept for its 
intended purpose. 

Otherwise, people will keep forgetting that they are only human, and the 
conversation will keep going off the rails, and other people will keep 
getting angry ... and so on to infinity. In other words, it will be like it 
is now, only keep getting worse. Or, we could try something different. 

Bill



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