On Friday 24 of April 2020 12:14:53 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Fri, 24 Apr 11:07:30 +0200 > > Slávek Banko scripsit: > > On Friday 24 of April 2020 08:15:14 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > > I assumed a plan using a fiscal host. If I understood correctly, > > > > for OpenSource projects, there are fiscal hosts available that > > > > have 5% fees and no fixed monthly fees. And above all, the fiscal > > > > host would take care of bookkeeping, taxes, and so on. We could > > > > choose whether we prefer the US (USD currency) or the EU (EUR > > > > currency): > > > > > > > > https://opencollective.com/pricing?tab=singleCollectiveWithoutAcco > > > >unt > > > > > > > > > # # # > > > > > > > > > > These kind of decisions are always a trade off, personally I’d > > > > > go with Open Collective to begin with, but if the [TDE-ORG] > > > > > starts getting decent funding I’d move on to something else. > > > > > > > > If we use the Open Collective fiscal host, we would not have to > > > > deal with starting our own organization for now. That's one of the > > > > reasons why Open Collective seems interesting to me. > > > > > > This is kind of service is the most expensive you can get, leaving > > > aside the legal implications. A professinal bookkeeper for a costs > > > you ~ 300.- / year for simple bookkeeping (again: Austria) - that > > > is, if you feel overhelmed with dooing simple bookkeeping yourself. > > > If going for legal, how should these companies handle local laws? To > > > which laws ate they bound? What's with VAT? > > > > > > civicrm.org --> US > > > backdropcms.org --> US > > > opencollective.com --> US > > > stripe.com --> UK > > > > > > Choos your poison. > > > > For Open Collective, it depends on the selected fiscal host. For > > example, here is a fiscal host based in Brussels: > > > > https://opencollective.com/europe > > > > > > Does anyone know of any other organizations such as Open Collective? > > There is an example Software Freedom Conservancy, but it does not give > > a choice of fiscal hosts - only the US. At the same time, it seems > > more limited in the possibilities of donation methods, I do not see > > transparent access to accounting records. See: > > > > https://sfconservancy.org/projects/services/ > > > > Cheers > > The question still is: what problem can you sove with a paied service > like that? You still need a legal framework to use it. And when you have > the framework, what's the point in those services? > > Nik The idea is that instead of creating an organization for which we would have to take care of all the necessary legal, we could create a TDE team - a collective - at Open Collective. And through this team, we will be able to accept donations and manage funds without having to worry about bookkeeping and other legal requirements. I suppose it will be easier to manage the core members of the team at Open Collective than to address legal issues regarding the statutory roles in the organization. Or am I wrong and here are the necessary reasons for creating an organization? Cheers -- Slávek
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