Re: Re: [OT] [trinity-users] Re: Linux for smartphone + email hosting

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On Saturday 30 November 2019 10:56:42 Michael wrote:
> On Saturday 30 November 2019 08:25:12 am William Morder via trinity-users
>
> wrote:
> > If you host your own email, then you can control everything yourself. Of
> > course, you must have the skills to be able to set up your own server, as
> > well as having to pay for bandwidth, etc. However, it only costs about
> > $500 US for the server, and then about another $100 US per year for
> > subscription. (Note that I saved the links some months ago, and haven't
> > read these pages since then, so my memory may be faulty.)
> >
> > It seems to me, however, that a group of people could set up their own
> > email service, and divide the costs and responsibilities.
>
> Whoa, whoa, whoa!
>
> If I read that right you’re saying an Email server is $500+ per year?  That
> is so not true!
>
> Conventionally you need:
>
> - Domain name ($9/year) [1]
> - A cheap shared host ($20/year) [2]
> - A free web hosting control panel ($0/year) [3] *
> - Security & Firewall software ($0/year) [4]
>
> Total ~$30/year
>
> * You’ll need this with a VPS or better, with a shared host you probably
> won’t.
>
> If you don’t want to manage a server, the unconventional route is to use
> Email Hosting at your domain registrar.
>
> - Domain name ($9/year) [1]
> - Email Hosting ($24/year) [5]
>
> Total ~$35/year
>
> # # #
>
> Generally the difference is with conventional you get unlimited email
> addresses of your domain name and it can be setup to SSH tunnel between you
> and your server.  Email Hosting at your domain registrar tends to limit the
> number of email addresses you can use and doesn’t always have a secure
> connection (Porkbun seems to, but I’ve never used it).
>
> A secure connection is desired, but in no way guarantees your mail isn’t
> sent plain text between other hops.
>
> # # #
>
> I’m a Porkbun customer, so if you decide to use them, shoot me a private
> email and I’ll dig through their affiliate junk and send you a code.
>
> If anyone decides to go the conventional route, I do this for a living,
> shoot me an email if you have any questions or need setup help.
>
> Best All,
>
> Michael
> http://inet-design.com/
>
> [1]
> https://porkbun.com/products/domains#searchResultsTldLetter_c
>
> [2]
> https://www.webhostingtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4
>
> [3]
> https://www.accuwebhosting.com/blog/top-5-free-web-hosting-control-panels-t
>o-manage-vps-dedicated-servers/
> https://www.znetlive.com/blog/comparison-of-top-11-open-source-hosting-pane
>ls/
>
> [4]
> https://www.configserver.com/cp/csf.html
>
> [5]
> https://porkbun.com/products/email
>


NO NO NO 

$500 to buy the server itself (which looks about the size of a shoebox). If I 
remember the info on the web pages, they said one needed a subscription, 
which was about $100 a year, but that seemed too much to me. Good to know. 

I don't know if one must get a "subscription" through one certain company 
(i.e., connected to the makers of the server itself), or if others can be 
used, such as you recommend. 

Damn it, now I'm gonna have to go back and read these things again! 

:-/

In any case, I am more interested in the principle of the matter, which is 
self-hosting of one's own email; or, what I believe more manageable, for a 
small group to create and manage their own. If it gets too big, then you have 
the same problems as with Gmail, etc.; if too small, then you are 
overburdened with technical stuff, and it's probably too much for a single 
person. 

Bill


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