On Sunday 03 February 2019 17:05:43 Michael wrote: > On Sunday 03 February 2019 04:05:36 pm Thierry de Coulon wrote: > > On Sunday 03 February 2019 19.21:34 phiebie@xxxxxxx wrote: > > > Debian Buster, KDE 3.5.10. aptitude > > > As more and more software-updates clash with their dependencies against > > > what KDE needs or provides, I wanted to install trinity, preliminary > > > stable, alongside KDE. KDE should stay operational till I had > > > transferred my settings and programs aso to trinity. > > > No go! > > > Tdebase was fetched and seemingly installed, but when I restarted the > > > computer and wanted to start KDE, there was only a black screen with > > > the mouse-cursor and whatever I did with keyboard or mouse, nothing > > > happened. Cold reboot to clear memory, same thing. > > > Okay, let's then have a look at trinity. A blue screen with the logo > > > appeared and after a few seconds something like "no ..... available > > > check your installation"and I only could close that window via a warm > > > reboot. KDE gave me the black screen again and also TDE said > > > "check installation". > > > Installed TDE again, same results as before. Half an afternoon had > > > passed with no desktop still available. > > > Glad, that I had backupped my system before the experiment and could > > > restore my working KDE. > > > So there's also a clash between TDE and KDE, incredible! > > > Where should I look for the culprit for this disaster? > > > Kind regards. > > > > OK, so... > > > > a) You say Buster. Where did you install TDE from? What version? As far > > as I know, for Buster you need the premilinary builds. > > > > b) You say KDE 3.5.10. I seem to remember that install instructions said > > to purge any KDE 3.5 elements befor install. So yes, KDE 3.5 and TDE > > clash. It's known. I guess that's because thes share files with the same > > name, but different contents. > > Yes, I didn't mean to try both KDE3 and TDE as desktops for the same installation. Maybe I misread; I thought he meant KDE4 or beyond, along side TDE. Yes, KDE3 will screw you up. However, I have done a dual boot, with KDE3 (Hardy Heron 8.04.2) on a separate partition, and TDE and some other DEs on the other partition; and that worked pretty well. My reason for running KDE3 in Hardy is that it was my most stable system, and I wanted to modify KDE3 settings to work in TDE. Oh, and an aside for Michael: I have managed to sift through my settings, and my current machine is *almost* exactly, perfectly, like my old KDE3 Hardy box; only better in many ways. I only have a few minor bugs at present, the worst of which seem to be some networking issues; but even that is improving incrementally, at the same speed that grass grows and paint dries. > > If you want Trinity, you should better install on a system with no KDE, > > and running a testing TDE on a testing Debian, I'm not really surprised > > you encounter some problems. > > > > These are caused by your environment, not by Trinity itself. > > Hi phiebie, > > Welcome to TDE! > > Couple things to add/agree with. Yeah, don’t install KDE 3.x and TDE at > the same time, as far as I remember this was never an option? Someone with > more experience will need to give deeper instructions but in general: > > - If you have $10 to spare, just buy a new HDD and use it for testing. > (You can get a 250GB SATA 6GB/s for $7 on Amazon.) > > - Do use a copy of your current KDE 3.x home partition or your user folder > when you’re installing TDE. Whether you need to install TDE 3.x first then > upgrade to TDE 14.x I’m not sure. Doing this will [fairly] seamlessly > migrate things like KMail. (Or at least that’s my memory from ~10 years > ago when I moved from KDE 3.x to TDE 3.x, which hopefully isn’t wrong.) > > - If your looking for an “easy” test of a Debian based OS try MX Linux. It > installs well from their Live USB, gives you their default desktop, and > then you can add TDE like normal. https://mxlinux.org/ > > Best, > Michael This is a good idea. Or just gut an old desktop or laptop. I have often run a desktop computer, with four internal hard drives, all kinds of peripherals, etc., and all of it running from a 250 GB laptop hdd that I salvaged. In fact, that is what I am running right now. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting
