On Sunday 03 February 2019 14:05:36 Thierry de Coulon wrote: > On Sunday 03 February 2019 19.21:34 phiebie@xxxxxxx wrote: > > Debian Buster, KDE 3.5.10. aptitude > > As more and more software-updates clash with their dependencies against > > what KDE needs or provides, I wanted to install trinity, preliminary > > stable, alongside KDE. KDE should stay operational till I had > > transferred my settings and programs aso to trinity. > > No go! > > Tdebase was fetched and seemingly installed, but when I restarted the > > computer and wanted to start KDE, there was only a black screen with > > the mouse-cursor and whatever I did with keyboard or mouse, nothing > > happened. Cold reboot to clear memory, same thing. > > Okay, let's then have a look at trinity. A blue screen with the logo > > appeared and after a few seconds something like "no ..... available > > check your installation"and I only could close that window via a warm > > reboot. KDE gave me the black screen again and also TDE said > > "check installation". > > Installed TDE again, same results as before. Half an afternoon had > > passed with no desktop still available. > > Glad, that I had backupped my system before the experiment and could > > restore my working KDE. > > So there's also a clash between TDE and KDE, incredible! > > Where should I look for the culprit for this disaster? > > Kind regards. > > OK, so... > > a) You say Buster. Where did you install TDE from? What version? As far as > I know, for Buster you need the premilinary builds. > > b) You say KDE 3.5.10. I seem to remember that install instructions said to > purge any KDE 3.5 elements befor install. So yes, KDE 3.5 and TDE clash. > It's known. I guess that's because thes share files with the same name, but > different contents. > > If you want Trinity, you should better install on a system with no KDE, and > running a testing TDE on a testing Debian, I'm not really surprised you > encounter some problems. > > These are caused by your environment, not by Trinity itself. > > Thierry > Also I think that he might have better luck in trying Debian that is not quite so bleeding-edge as Buster; maybe Stretch or Jessie? FWIW, I am running Devuan Jessie with Trinity R14.0.6. Most of my issues have disappeared since switching to Devuan (and prying myself free of systemd). I recommend the netinstall disc, for me it worked better than their DVD. Unlike some others here, I do occasionally use the KDE desktop, as well as MATE, so I usually have them both installed, but rarely boot into them except for troubleshooting, or for certain features that I can't get to work in TDE (such as syncing my smartphone). But it is very rare nowadays that I ever go into those other desktops, and I could do without them except for once in a blue moon when nothing works right. Someday I hope to see TDE pre-installed on a Devuan disc (and not ExeGNU, which for me at least, doesn't work), but for now at least this setup works pretty well. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting