Hi Mantas, /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd/release_agent contains /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-cgroups-agent. This is inside the container. I'm not sure if systemd (inside the container) would see anything different. I'm also not sure if this is correct. I used: bpftrace -e 'tracepoint:syscalls:sys_enter_exec*{ printf("pid: %d, comm: %s, args: ", pid, comm); join(args->argv); }' to trace exec()s. Although I see other executables being run, though nothing related to systemd, I don't see systemd-cgroups-agent being run. Thanks again for any ideas... peace & happiness, martin On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 12:01:33 +0300, Mantas Mikulėnas <grawity@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > What value do you have in /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd/release_agent, as seen by > systemd? Does it point to the correct executable? > > Does e.g. forkstat (or execsnoop or similar) show that the executable is > being run when the cgroup empties? > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 04:20 Martin Schwenke <martin@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Hi Mantas, > > > > Yes, it looks like cgroups v1. > > > > Would this be a kernel bug? systemd bug? > > > > Thanks... > > > > peace & happiness, > > martin > > > > On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 08:19:59 +0300, Mantas Mikulėnas > > <grawity@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Is this with cgroups v1 or v2? If cgroups v1 is involved (thanks > > Docker), I > > > recall it was a bit complex for systemd to get notified when the cgroup > > > actually empties – via /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd/release_agent that > > specifies > > > a helper executable that the kernel runs... I wonder if that mechanism is > > > broken on your system. > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 7:38 AM Martin Schwenke <martin@xxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > > > > > I'm seeing "systemctl stop <service>" for several services taking a > > > > long time because it goes through the timeout process, even though all > > > > relevant processes have exited. > > > > > > > > I'll give 2 examples. Both examples are running inside a privileged > > > > Rocky Linux 8.8 Docker container on a Rocky Linux 8.8 host. The > > > > systemd version, reported by "systemctl --version" in the container > > > > is: > > > > > > > > systemd 239 (239-74.el8_8.5) > > > > > > > > Here is ctdb.system: > > > > > > > > [Unit] > > > > Description=CTDB > > > > Documentation=man:ctdbd(1) man:ctdb(7) > > > > After=network-online.target time-sync.target > > > > ConditionFileNotEmpty=/etc/ctdb/nodes > > > > > > > > [Service] > > > > Type=forking > > > > LimitCORE=infinity > > > > LimitNOFILE=1048576 > > > > TasksMax=4096 > > > > PIDFile=/var/run/ctdb/ctdbd.pid > > > > ExecStart=/usr/sbin/ctdbd > > > > ExecStop=/usr/bin/ctdb shutdown > > > > KillMode=control-group > > > > Restart=no > > > > > > > > [Install] > > > > WantedBy=multi-user.target > > > > > > > > "/usr/bin/ctdb shutdown" causes a controlled shutdown. In many cases, > > > > starting and then stopping using systemctl works fine. However, many > > > > times it takes >90s to stop, as per TimeoutStopSec. If I reduce that > > > > value then the duration reduces accordingly. I can confirm using both > > > > "ps auxfww" and "systemd-cgls" that within the container there are no > > > > relevant processes a moment after "systemctl stop ctdb" is run. In > > > > particular, in systemd-cgls ctdb.service is gone but "systemctl stop > > > > ctdb" is still waiting. > > > > > > > > Before attempting to stop, the service is successfully started: > > > > > > > > Oct 11 00:56:44 rocky1 systemd[710741]: ctdb.service: Executing: > > > > /usr/sbin/ctdbd > > > > Oct 11 00:56:44 rocky1 ctdbd[710741]: CTDB logging to location > > > > file:/var/log/log.ctdb > > > > Oct 11 00:56:44 rocky1 systemd[1]: Received SIGCHLD from PID 710741 > > > > (ctdbd). > > > > Oct 11 00:56:44 rocky1 systemd[1]: Child 710741 (ctdbd) died > > > > (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) > > > > Oct 11 00:56:44 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Child 710741 > > belongs to > > > > ctdb.service. > > > > Oct 11 00:56:44 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Control process > > exited, > > > > code=exited status=0 > > > > Oct 11 00:56:44 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Got final SIGCHLD > > for > > > > state start. > > > > Oct 11 00:56:44 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: New main PID 710742 > > > > belongs to service, we are happy. > > > > Oct 11 00:56:44 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Main PID loaded: > > 710742 > > > > Oct 11 00:56:44 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Changed start -> > > running > > > > Oct 11 00:56:44 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Job > > ctdb.service/start > > > > finished, result=done > > > > Oct 11 00:56:44 rocky1 systemd[1]: Started CTDB. > > > > -- Subject: Unit ctdb.service has finished start-up > > > > -- Defined-By: systemd > > > > -- Support: > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel > > > > -- > > > > -- Unit ctdb.service has finished starting up. > > > > -- > > > > -- The start-up result is done. > > > > > > > > The relevant part of the log while stopping seems to be: > > > > > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Received SIGCHLD from PID 710743 > > > > (ctdb-eventd). > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Child 710742 (ctdbd) died > > > > (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Child 710742 > > belongs to > > > > ctdb.service. > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Can't open PID file > > > > /var/run/ctdb/ctdbd.pid (yet?) after stop: No such file or directory > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Main process exited, > > > > code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Sent message type=signal > > > > sender=org.freedesktop.systemd1 destination=n/a > > > > path=/org/freedesktop/systemd1/unit/ctdb_2eservice > > > > interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties member=PropertiesChanged > > > > cookie=54 reply_cookie=0 signature=sa{sv}as error-name=n/a > > error-message=n/a > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Sent message type=signal > > > > sender=org.freedesktop.systemd1 destination=n/a > > > > path=/org/freedesktop/systemd1/unit/ctdb_2eservice > > > > interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties member=PropertiesChanged > > > > cookie=55 reply_cookie=0 signature=sa{sv}as error-name=n/a > > error-message=n/a > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Child 710743 (ctdb-eventd) died > > > > (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Child 710743 > > belongs to > > > > ctdb.service. > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: systemd-journald.service: Received > > > > EPOLLHUP on stored fd 18 (stored), closing. > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Received SIGCHLD from PID 710860 > > > > (ctdb). > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Child 710860 (ctdb) died > > > > (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Child 710860 > > belongs to > > > > ctdb.service. > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Control process > > exited, > > > > code=exited status=0 > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Got final SIGCHLD > > for > > > > state stop. > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Changed stop -> > > > > stop-sigterm > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Sent message type=signal > > > > sender=org.freedesktop.systemd1 destination=n/a > > > > path=/org/freedesktop/systemd1/unit/ctdb_2eservice > > > > interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties member=PropertiesChanged > > > > cookie=56 reply_cookie=0 signature=sa{sv}as error-name=n/a > > error-message=n/a > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Sent message type=signal > > > > sender=org.freedesktop.systemd1 destination=n/a > > > > path=/org/freedesktop/systemd1/unit/ctdb_2eservice > > > > interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties member=PropertiesChanged > > > > cookie=57 reply_cookie=0 signature=sa{sv}as error-name=n/a > > error-message=n/a > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Received SIGCHLD from PID 710834 > > > > (ctdb_lock_helpe). > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Child 710834 (ctdb_lock_helpe) > > died > > > > (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Child 710834 > > belongs to > > > > ctdb.service. > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Received SIGCHLD from PID 710835 > > > > (ctdb_lock_helpe). > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Child 710832 (ctdb_lock_helpe) > > died > > > > (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Child 710832 > > belongs to > > > > ctdb.service. > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Child 710835 (ctdb_lock_helpe) > > died > > > > (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Child 710835 > > belongs to > > > > ctdb.service. > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Child 710833 (ctdb_lock_helpe) > > died > > > > (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Child 710833 > > belongs to > > > > ctdb.service. > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Child 710836 (ctdb_lock_helpe) > > died > > > > (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Child 710836 > > belongs to > > > > ctdb.service. > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Child 710837 (ctdb_lock_helpe) > > died > > > > (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Child 710837 > > belongs to > > > > ctdb.service. > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Child 710838 (ctdb_lock_helpe) > > died > > > > (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Child 710838 > > belongs to > > > > ctdb.service. > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Child 710839 (ctdb_lock_helpe) > > died > > > > (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Child 710839 > > belongs to > > > > ctdb.service. > > > > Oct 11 00:56:47 rocky1 systemd[1]: Received SIGCHLD from PID 710832 > > > > (n/a). > > > > Oct 11 00:57:44 rocky1 systemd[1]: systemd-journald.service: Got > > > > notification message from PID 840 (WATCHDOG=1) > > > > Oct 11 00:58:17 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: State 'stop-sigterm' > > > > timed out. Killing. > > > > Oct 11 00:58:17 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Failed with result > > > > 'timeout'. > > > > -- Subject: Unit failed > > > > -- Defined-By: systemd > > > > -- Support: > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel > > > > -- > > > > -- The unit ctdb.service has entered the 'failed' state with result > > > > 'timeout'. > > > > Oct 11 00:58:17 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Changed > > stop-sigterm -> > > > > failed > > > > Oct 11 00:58:17 rocky1 systemd[1]: Sent message type=signal > > > > sender=org.freedesktop.systemd1 destination=n/a > > > > path=/org/freedesktop/systemd1 > > interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties > > > > member=PropertiesChanged cookie=58 reply_cookie=0 signature=sa{sv}as > > > > error-name=n/a error-message=n/a > > > > Oct 11 00:58:17 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Job > > ctdb.service/stop > > > > finished, result=done > > > > Oct 11 00:58:17 rocky1 systemd[1]: Stopped CTDB. > > > > -- Subject: Unit ctdb.service has finished shutting down > > > > -- Defined-By: systemd > > > > -- Support: > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel > > > > -- > > > > -- Unit ctdb.service has finished shutting down. > > > > Oct 11 00:58:17 rocky1 systemd[1]: Sent message type=signal > > > > sender=org.freedesktop.systemd1 destination=n/a > > > > path=/org/freedesktop/systemd1 > > interface=org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager > > > > member=JobRemoved cookie=59 reply_cookie=0 signature=uoss > > error-name=n/a > > > > error-message=n/a > > > > Oct 11 00:58:17 rocky1 systemd[1]: ctdb.service: Unit entered failed > > > > state. > > > > > > > > It would be very useful if systemd could log what it is still waiting > > > > for when it times out. > > > > > > > > Note that during start and stop, CTDB runs a lot of subprocesses, > > > > including some that use systemctl to start and stop various services > > > > that it, in turn, manages. > > > > > > > > The full debug level log, after running: > > > > > > > > systemd-analyze log-level debug > > > > > > > > is uploaded it to: > > > > > > > > https://meltin.net/uploads/systemd/ctdb-stop.log > > > > > > > > I'm happy to reply and attach it, but it is 48KB. > > > > > > > > The only theory I can come up with is some sort of race where > > > > processes are created during shutdown and systemd gets confused. > > > > > > > > I see a similar thing for a much simpler service, winbind: > > > > > > > > Here is winbind.service: > > > > > > > > [Unit] > > > > Description=Samba Winbind Daemon > > > > Documentation=man:winbindd(8) man:samba(7) man:smb.conf(5) > > > > After=network.target nmb.service > > > > > > > > [Service] > > > > Type=notify > > > > PIDFile=/var/run/winbindd.pid > > > > EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/samba > > > > ExecStart=/usr/sbin/winbindd --foreground --no-process-group > > > > $WINBINDOPTIONS > > > > ExecReload=/bin/kill -HUP $MAINPID > > > > LimitCORE=infinity > > > > > > > > [Install] > > > > WantedBy=multi-user.target > > > > > > > > Yesterday I watched it do the same thing as CTDB. I could start the > > > > service by hand but it would time out during stop, nearly every time, > > > > even though there were no relevant processes running anymore. > > > > winbindd sends a READY=1 notification after successfully starting. It > > > > does not send STOPPING=1. winbindd is much simpler during shutdown. > > > > I can get logs for this one too if necessary. > > > > > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > > > > > peace & happiness, > > > > martin > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Mantas Mikulėnas > > > > > >