Yeah, can we please block this Ulrich Windl guy. He's been more of a nuisance than a benefit to this community. Am Mo., 14. Nov. 2022 um 09:17 Uhr schrieb Mantas Mikulėnas <grawity@xxxxxxxxx>: > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 9:00 AM Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >>> Mantas Mikulenas <grawity@xxxxxxxxx> schrieb am 11.11.2022 um 15:49 in >> Nachricht >> <CAPWNY8Xz-N6S_JwkCsr+wK7Tu92LQw+U0DCp8NbKinrTF7zXWQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 4:19 PM Brian Reichert <reichert@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > >> >> On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 08:02:00AM +0100, Ulrich Windl wrote: >> >> > >>> Brian Reichert <reichert@xxxxxxxxxxx> schrieb am 10.11.2022 um >> >> 23:04 in >> >> > Nachricht <20221110220426.GA17371@xxxxxxxxxxx>: >> >> > > I've managed to hose a SLES12 SP5 host; it starts to boot, then hangs. >> >> > >> >> > And what did you do to mess it up? And what do the boot messages say? >> >> >> >> A good question, and not specific to systemd, so I don't want to >> >> pollute the list archives too much on this matter. >> >> >> >> 'All' I did was remove many RPMs that I arbitrarily deemed >> >> unnecessary. >> >> >> >> I came up with a heavily trimmed-down list of SLES RPM for my SLES12 >> >> Sp5 environment. >> >> >> >> I successfully installed a server using just that trimmed-down list; >> >> yay me! >> >> >> >> I then explored 'upgrading' a running (slight older) SP5 box, using >> >> this trimmed-down list. A purposeful side effect was to uninstall >> >> RPMs not in that trimmed-down list. >> >> >> >> This latter box begins to boot, and gets at least as far as loading >> >> the initrd image, before hanging. >> >> >> > >> > Boot with "systemd.debug-shell" and use tty9 to investigate from the inside. >> >> Wow! never heard of that option. Is that a kind of target, or what is the mechanism? >> Which of the 196 (man -k systemd | wc -l) systemd-related manual pages would describe it? ;-) > > > The more I read your smartass sarcastic comments here, the less I feel like staying on this list and helping *other* people with finding stuff in those 196 systemd-related manual pages. But I suppose that's what you want to achieve, so that you can snark even more about how "systemd is so complex that nobody's bothering to reply to the list anymore"? > > For those who have *actually* never heard of that option, it is documented in systemd-debug-generator(8). > > -- > Mantas Mikulėnas