This problem of missing early boot messages is now happening on a default boot of Fedora Live images. I don't have to change any boot parameters to trigger it. This image: https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/rawhide/Fedora-Rawhide-20190715.n.1/compose/Workstation/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-Rawhide-20190715.n.1.iso Boot it in a VM, launch Terminal and: [liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ sudo journalctl -o short-monotonic [sudo] password for liveuser: -- Logs begin at Tue 2019-07-16 11:58:09 EDT, end at Tue 2019-07-16 15:58:09 EDT. -- [ 24.017711] localhost-live systemd[1472]: Startup finished in 293ms. [ 24.447054] localhost-live dbus-broker-launch[1496]: Service file '/usr/share/dbus-1/servi... And neither a forwarded to console, nor directed to kmsg, do I see /run/log or /var/log anywhere, so quite a lot of information is not being forwarded and is just lost because of this bug. Further, I discovered an note in an earlier bug I filed in February 2019 about this problem: "OK I'm not seeing this with systemd-241~rc2-2.fc30.x86_64 in the 20190211 Live media" so that leads me to believe this is a systemd regression, but I can't prove it because of this bug. I have no systemd debug messages available to look at... Fedora Basic Release Criteria "A system logging infrastructure must be available, enabled by default, and working." I really think logging is not working, and this should block. But without a really specific cause + solution it's questionable to block. --- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel