On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 13:27 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Ben Hutchings <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 22:09 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > [...] > >> > > How important is the stable releases? Are maintainers willing to do a > >> > > little more work now to make sure their subsystems work fine in older > >> > > kernels? This isn't the same stable as it was 8 years ago. > >> > > >> > And that annoys the hell out of some Linux companies who feel that the > >> > stable kernels compete with them. So people working for those companies > >> > might not get as much help with doing any additional work for stable > >> > kernel releases (this is not just idle gossip, I've heard it directly > >> > from management's mouths.) > >> > >> Hmm, this is new to me. Really, I thought the whole point of the stable > >> releases was to help Linux companies. > > [...] > > > > I also heard some managers decided their kernel source packages should > > have all the patches squashed together to make them harder to cherry- > > pick... could it have been the same company? > > Greg loves to tell stories about RH management, but really if he can > find any engineer who works for RH that says he can't work on stable > due to being told by management, I'd be surprised. To be clear, I very much appreciate the level of contribution to stable from RH developers. And it's a little too high to believe these are just a few rogues flouting policy. :-) > Maybe when stable > first surfaced there was a hope of it being close to RHEL, The lack of non-trivial driver backports means it's not really competitive with any commercial distribution. (But it looks a little better if you add in compat-drivers.) > but at this > point stable has little to no usefulness from a RHEL point of view, > and since nearly all the RH employed maintainers all do stable work, I > can't see why Greg would think this matters. > > In fact Greg how much of stable queue does come from Red Hatters? Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Humans are not rational beings; they are rationalising beings.
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