Hi! I did a bit of an analysis of the data gathered so far. Current status: 8236072KB of allocated memory by squid since restart of squid on the 8th, so about 5-6 days. The following memory pools have most of an increase in the last 2 days (>100kB): Type-date KB-20140712 KB-20140714 KB-Delta Cnt-20140712 Cnt-20140714 Cnt-Delta Total 5629096 7494319 1865223 26439770 33704210 7264440 mem_node 2375038 3192370 817332 588017 790374 202357 4K Buffer 1138460 1499996 361536 284615 374999 90384 Short Strings 456219 606107 149888 11679188 15516319 3837131 16K Buffer 213120 323120 110000 13320 20195 6875 HttpHeaderEntry 312495 415162 102667 5714194 7591516 1877322 2K Buffer 249876 351226 101350 124938 175613 50675 8K Buffer 135944 182360 46416 16993 22795 5802 HttpReply 133991 178174 44183 490023 651607 161584 MemObject 114845 152713 37868 490004 651575 161571 Medium Strings 90893 120859 29966 727141 966866 239725 cbdata BodyPipe (39) 65367 88238 22871 440363 594443 154080 HttpHdrCc 41486 55327 13841 442515 590153 147638 32K Buffer 23584 35360 11776 737 1105 368 cbdata MemBuf (13) 30627 40726 10099 490026 651615 161589 LRU policy node 46068 49871 3803 1965553 2127797 162244 64K Buffer 1664 2240 576 26 35 9 Long Strings 1444 2007 563 2888 4014 1126 StoreEntry 173530 173746 216 1480781 1482628 1847 All of those have linear increases. They also show similar "wavy" behavior - when one has a "bump" then some of the others also have a Bump. So now there are several "groups": * pools that stay constant (wordlist,...) * pools that show variability like our traffic-curves (Comm::Connections) * pools that increase minimally (starting at 80% of current KB 2 days ago) (ip_cache_entry, LRU_policy_node) * pool that increases a bit (starting at 35% of current KB 2days ago) fqdncache_entry * Pools that increase a lot (starting at below 20% of the currend KB 2 days ago) - which are (sorted from Biggest to smallest KB footprint): ** mem_node ** 4K Buffer ** Short Strings ** HttpHeaderEntry ** 2K Buffer ** 16K Buffer ** 8K Buffer ** Http Reply ** Mem Object ** Medium Strings ** cbdata BodyPipe (39) ** HttpHdrCc ** cbdata MemBuff(13) ** 32K Buffer ** Long Strings So there must be something that links all of those in the last group together. If you again look at the delta of the % between hours one can find that most of those show again a "traffic-curve" pattern in the increase (which is the wavy part I was talking about earlier) All of the pools in this specific group show (again) similar behavior with similar ratios. So it seems to me as we keeping too much information in our cache, which never gets evicted - as I had said earlier: my guess would be the extra info to manage "Vary" possibly related to some cleanup processes not evicting all the "related" objects in cache... This is when I started to look at some other variation reported in other values. So here the values of "StoreEntries" for the last few days: 20140709-020001: 1472007 StoreEntries 20140710-020001: 1475545 StoreEntries 20140711-020001: 1478025 StoreEntries 20140712-020001: 1480771 StoreEntries 20140713-020001: 1481721 StoreEntries 20140714-020001: 1482608 StoreEntries These stayed almost constant... But looking at " StoreEntries with MemObjects" the picture is totally different. 20140709-020001: 128542 StoreEntries with MemObjects 20140710-020001: 275923 StoreEntries with MemObjects 20140711-020001: 387990 StoreEntries with MemObjects 20140712-020001: 489994 StoreEntries with MemObjects 20140713-020001: 571872 StoreEntries with MemObjects 20140714-020001: 651560 StoreEntries with MemObjects And "on disk objects": 20140709-020001: 1470163 on-disk objects 20140710-020001: 1472215 on-disk objects 20140711-020001: 1473671 on-disk objects 20140712-020001: 1475614 on-disk objects 20140713-020001: 1475933 on-disk objects 20140714-020001: 1476291 on-disk objects (constant again) And " Hot Object Cache Items": 20140709-020001: 128532 Hot Object Cache Items 20140710-020001: 275907 Hot Object Cache Items 20140711-020001: 387985 Hot Object Cache Items 20140712-020001: 489989 Hot Object Cache Items 20140713-020001: 571862 Hot Object Cache Items 20140714-020001: 651556 Hot Object Cache Items So if you look at the finer details and traffic pattern we again see that traffic pattern for: * storeEntries with MemObjects * Hot Object Cache Items And these show similar behavior to the pools mentioned above. The other 2 types stay fairly constant and also decrease in count. So maybe all this gives additional evidence which objects are using so much more memory. Did this give any hints? Do you want to see any other data gathered? martin -----Original Message----- From: Martin Sperl Sent: Freitag, 11. Juli 2014 09:06 To: Amos Jeffries; squid-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: squid: Memory utilization higher than expected since moving from 3.3 to 3.4 and Vary: working The basic connection stats are in the mgr:info: File descriptor usage for squid: Maximum number of file descriptors: 65536 Largest file desc currently in use: 1351 Number of file desc currently in use: 249 Files queued for open: 0 Available number of file descriptors: 65287 Reserved number of file descriptors: 100 Store Disk files open: 0 Also: our loadbalancer will disconnect idle connections after some time and I believe the config has similar settings... Will send you the hourly details since the restart in a personal email due to size limits of the mailinglist. Here the current size of the process: squid 15022 9.5 29.6 4951452 4838272 ? Sl Jul08 317:01 (squid-1) -f /opt/cw/squid/squid.conf Martin -----Original Message----- From: Amos Jeffries [mailto:squid3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Freitag, 11. Juli 2014 05:24 To: Martin Sperl; squid-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: squid: Memory utilization higher than expected since moving from 3.3 to 3.4 and Vary: working On 8/07/2014 10:20 p.m., Martin Sperl wrote: > The problem is that it is a "slow" leak - it takes some time (month) to find it... > Also it only happens on real live traffic with high volume plus high utilization of "Vary:" > Moving our prod environment to head would be quite a political issue inside our organization. > Arguing to go to the latest stable version 3.4.6 would be possible, but I doubt it would change a thing > > In the meantime we have not restarted the squids yet, so we still got a bit of information available if needed. > But we cannot keep it up in this state much longer. > > I created a core-dump, but analyzing that is hard. > > Here the top strings from that 10GB core-file - taken via: strings corefile| sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | head -20). > This may give you some idea: > 2071897 =0.7 > 1353960 Keep-Alive > 1343528 image/gif > 877129 HTTP/1.1 200 OK > 855949 GMT > 852122 Content-Type > 851706 HTTP/ > 851371 Date > 850485 Server > 848027 IEND > 821956 Content-Length > 776359 Content-Type: image/gif > 768935 Cache-Control > 760741 ETag > 743341 live > 720255 Connection > 677920 Connection: Keep-Alive > 676108 Last-Modified > 662765 Expires > 585139 X-Powered-By: Servlet/2.4 JSP/2.0 > > Another thing I thought we could do is: > * restart squids > * run mgr:mem every day and compare the daily changes for all the values (maybe others?) > > Any other ideas how to "find" the issue? > Possibly a list of the mgr:filedescriptors open will show if there are any hung connections/transactions, or long-polling connections holding onto state. Do you have the mgr:mem reports over the last few days? I can start analysing to see if anything else pops out at me. Amos This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp