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Michel Santos wrote:
Tek Bahadur Limbu disse na ultima mensagem:
diskd indeed seems to fail under load especially when approaching
200/300 requests per second.

are you sure this numbers are correct? where do you get them from?

Hi Michel,

I am getting these numbers from one of my busy proxy server. At peak times, I get anywhere from 150-200 requests per second. However to cross the 300 mark, it only happens when 1 or 2 of my other proxy servers go down and then our load balancer redirects web requests to whichever proxy server is up and functioning.


It causes Squid to crash and restart automatically. Though, the side
effects are not noticed to the causal user, it prevents the cache from
stabilizing in the first place.



in first place diskd does not cause automatic restart ;) that is RunCache
who does it and I also do not believe that diskd cause squid to crash

Ok I should have said my Squid process crashes and RunCache restarts it automatically. Since I am using diskd for most of my FreeBSD proxies, I suspect that it might be the diskd storage which might be causing this problem, especially while serving about 200 requests per second. Most of my proxy servers serving less than 100 requests per second don't have this problem.

Again I stress that it's not noticeable if the Squid process gets restarted. So I only come to know of it after sometime while checking it's graphs and other stats.

I guess that I may have to really commit my time and resources to find out if other factors could be causing this to happen.

Haven't you faced any automatic restart of your Squid process. Does that mean that your Squid process uptime is months?



if the crash really happens then there is something wrong on your machine

if the problem is the load and your computer can not handle the load then
it first gets slow or you get out of memory and then squid may crash but
you better should look what is really wrong there before blaming the fs
type you use

I don't think that there is anything wrong with my machines and their configurations. But I also don't want to say that they are 100% perfect because then why would people develop newer versions of softwares. They are machines which we need to fine tune correctly and it is always an ongoing process which will never stop.

They have been in production for years and each of their average uptime is about 120 days. As far as the load is concerned, my CPU usage never goes above 30-40% but sometimes my memory usage crosses 80% of it's capacity though.

By the way, do you have some optimal settings which can be applied to diskd? Below are some values I use:

options         SHMSEG=128
options         SHMMNI=256
options         SHMMAX=50331648 # max shared memory segment size (bytes)
options         SHMALL=16384    # max amount of shared memory (pages)
options         MSGMNB=16384    # max # of bytes in a queue
options         MSGMNI=48       # number of message queue identifiers
options         MSGSEG=768      # number of message segments
options         MSGSSZ=64       # size of a message segment
options         MSGTQL=4096     # max messages in system

Correct me where necessary.




If I opt to use aufs, will the following compilations work?

'--enable-async-io' '--with-pthreads'


with-pthreads is not necessary

but certainly this switch is kind of strange for freebsd since you need to
remap the process-threads to kernel-threads in order to get it right
(faster), both thread implementations should work well then with kqueue
which also is correctly detected by configure when available


Can you explain in a layman point of view regarding remapping the process-threads to kernel-threads?

Why don't you write an article on this topic so that people would know how to fine tune their FreeBSD OS if they opt to use the aufs storage schema.

I would certainly appreciate it.

Thanking you...


Michel
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With best regards and good wishes,

Yours sincerely,

Tek Bahadur Limbu

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Jwl Systems Department

Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd.

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