Re: New Internet Draft for Caller Identity Blocking

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Hi,

Please also keep in mind that CANCEL is hop-to-hop, so if someone inserts a Reason header in the request there is no guarantee that the next hop will forward it.

Regards,

Christer 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sipping-bounces@xxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:sipping-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Avasarala Ranjit-A20990
> Sent: 3. maaliskuuta 2009 11:07
> To: Christer Holmberg; Victor Pascual Ávila; Hadriel Kaplan
> Cc: sipping@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re:  New Internet Draft for Caller Identity Blocking
> 
> Hi Christer
> 
> The caller identity blocking could be offered as a 
> supplementary service - something like Enhanced Incoming 
> Communication Barring.  The users can subscribe to this just 
> as they subscribe to any other service.
> So as part of this service execution, the proxy or CSCF needs 
> to look for the Reason header in the incoming CANCEL or BYE 
> requests and if found should pick the mentioned identity and 
> add the identity to the user's black list.
> 
> Now say based on this service Alice blocks Bob and the proxy 
> parses the BYE message with Reason header, then the proxy 
> adds Bob's identity to Alice's black list. Now when Bob calls 
> Alice, then Proxy looks into Alice's black list and since 
> Bob's identity is present, sends a 4xx (e.g blocked user) 
> response to Bob indicating that Alice blocked Bob.
> 
> In the CR I submitted to 22.173 for enhanced ICB, I mentioned 
> that the Proxy or server can store details like Actual 
> Identity, Published Identity, Reason for block, duration of 
> block for a particular user. Now these details can be 
> standardized as part of a event package and then can be used 
> to notify the users of blocked calls using SUBCRIBE / NOTIFY 
> procedures and XCAP. 
> 
> 
> Regards
> Ranjit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sipping-bounces@xxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:sipping-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christer Holmberg
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:53 PM
> To: Victor Pascual Ávila; Hadriel Kaplan
> Cc: sipping@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re:  New Internet Draft for Caller Identity Blocking
> 
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> >>Some other comments on your draft:
> >>1) You show the Reason header being removed by the Proxy.  
> While that may make sense for some cases, for being out on 
> vacation it does not - I *want* the UAC to see it.
> >
> >I believe the header can reveal sensitive information for an 
> attacker:
> >permanent blocking vs temporal blocking (and the expires).
> 
> How does I know that there will be a proxy that supports the 
> extension in the first place, and that would remove the 
> header from the CAN/BYE/4xx? If no proxy supports the 
> extension the Reason header may be passed all the way to the UAC...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Christer
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