After that long thread on SAAG and a subsequent off-list discussion with Casey (plus my reading Smack documentation) I'm almost ready to reach the following conclusions: - We don't need policy agreement for MLS. Servers have all the necessary information when comparing labels without reference to a policy. However, clients have to be sharing a common MLS policy. - For "smart" MLS and Smack servers we need a method by which servers can determine the label range/set of client and user principals, but this need not be specified in a standard way except where label range/set is borne by authentication credentials (Kerberos V ticket authorization-data, PKIX cert extensions). This is already described in my RPCSEC_GSSv3 document. - For Smack we don't need policy agreement either, but it will be useful to distribute common subsets of Smack policy to clients, and to prefix labels from local-only sub-policies with a client ID (or client DOI, if you wish). - For DTE I've no idea what to do. Policy agreement seems like a flight of fancy for DTE. But *much* more importantly, because the process label transitions can span so many labels we simply cannot have too smart a server: the server can't meaningfully constrain the labels that a user@client can assert, therefore the server must trust all client assertions of process DTE labels or none at all. I.e., for DTE we can only have "dumb" servers. Nico -- -- This message was distributed to subscribers of the selinux mailing list. If you no longer wish to subscribe, send mail to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the words "unsubscribe selinux" without quotes as the message.