I appreciate your desire to fight the good fight. But some of us short sighted (and over worked) folks just want to get the thing to work.
BTW, I forget what I have been paying for my currently non-functioning OSA-Express 100Mbit cards, but I just got a reseller's quote for $8K - so they don't come cheap.
I look forward to the update with instructions on how to load the OCO drivers. I tried to mount my Marist volume with the sucessfully loading lcs.o so I could copy it over to my RedHat ramdisk installer system, but my ignorance prevents me.
So ....
1) It is very nice that instructions are coming. If it is a matter of days, I will be happy to wait. It would be even nicer to have a quick sketch of how to do this sent to the list so I could make the attempt ASAP.
2) It would have been optimal to include these instructions WHEN the modules were yanked (customer focus).
3) If anyone wants to explain to me why I can't mount my Marist volume, I would be grateful:
insmod dasd_mod dasd=63a-63d
> registered successfully to major no 94
cat /proc/dasd/devices
> 063a(none) at (94:0) is dasda: unknown
ls -l /dev/dasda*
> .... 94, 0 .... dasda
> .... 94, 1 .... dasda1
mount /dev/dasda1 /mntx
> no device registered as (94:1)
> must specify filesystem type
mount -t ext2 /dev/dasda1 /mntx (Marist "mount" reports dasda1 as ext2)
> no device registered as (94:1)
> /dev/dasda1 unknown device
Thanks all!
| Dorsey James - jdorse <James.Dorsey@acxiom.com>
Sent by: redhat-s390-list-admin@redhat.com 08/28/2001 08:52 AM
|
To: 'redhat390' <redhat-s390-list@redhat.com> cc: 'redhat390' <redhat-s390-list@redhat.com> Subject: RE: [Redhat-s390-list] OSA/OSA-E Drivers in Red Hat Linux/390 |
As a long time GNU/Linux user, I applaud RedHat for standing up for Freedom.
I know Debian GNU/Linux would not allow these modules to be on the
installation
system for S/390, since they violate Debian's Social Contract. It's good to
see
RedHat stand up instead of "selling out" to proprietary software.
If IBM is serious about "Peace, Love and Linux" they will open up the
OSA/OSA-E
driver. It's one thing to see unrequired third party applications to run on
top of
Linux that are proprietary, it's quite another thing to make a kernel module
binary.
It's all about control, IBM doesn't want anyone to make an "IBM-compatible"
ethernet
adapter for the S/390. Even though the technology of an 100Mbs Ethernet
adapter isn't
anything special, 100Mbs cards for PC's are in the range of $20-30. How
much
does IBM charge for the OSA card?
Peace, Love and Linux? Yeah right.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Post, Mark K [mailto:mark.post@eds.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 4:13 PM
> To: 'Bernhard Rosenkraenzer'; 'Linux390'
> Cc: 'redhat390'
> Subject: RE: [Redhat-s390-list] OSA/OSA-E Drivers in Red Hat Linux/390
>
>
> Apologies to anyone on both mailing lists for the
> duplication, but I wanted
> to make sure this got everyone involved on both lists.
>
> Bernhard,
>
> I doubt that you personally made the decision to exclude
> these modules from
> the Red Hat ramdisks, but since you answered the question, you get my
> response.
>
> This is unacceptable. For people with OSA/OSA-E cards on
> their systems, it
> creates an additional burden to getting your distribution
> installed. The
> reason given for not including them is rather weak and, I
> suspect, specious.
> Every other Linux distributor has found it possible to
> include these modules
> in a way that didn't severely impact their business. I
> thought Red Hat's
> way of initially including them in a separate /lib/modules
> directory was a
> fairly elegant way of accommodating them. Excluding them now looks
> particularly political, and I don't appreciate being the
> victim of those
> kinds of politics. I and John Krogulecki of Lilly spent a
> good number of
> hours over the last week trying to figure out why his OSA
> card suddenly
> wasn't being initialized. A subtle "not supported" message
> in the README
> file is not a very polite way of announcing their removal.
>
> Again, understand that this is not directed at you
> personally, Bernhard. I
> just want you to pass on to whomever _did_ make this decision
> that the whole
> thing stinks.
>
> Mark Post
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernhard Rosenkraenzer [mailto:bero@redhat.de]
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:01 PM
> To: Post, Mark K
> Cc: 'redhat390'
> Subject: Re: [Redhat-s390-list] OSA/OSA-E Drivers in Red Hat Linux/390
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Post, Mark K wrote:
>
> > I found this statement in the 08/18/2001 README file at
> > ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/rawhide/s390/README
> >
> > "- The lcs and the qeth drivers are not supported from Red
> Hat as they
> > are binary-only drivers that cannot be loaded into our standard
> > Red Hat Linux kernel and as they are not Open Source..."
> >
> > Is this why the lcs.o and qeth.o modules are not included
> in either the
> > initrd.img or tapeinrd.img files?
>
> Yes.
>
> LLaP
> bero
>
>
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