RE: Spam

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: shrike-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:shrike-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jake McHenry
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:39 PM
> To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Spam
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shrike-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:shrike-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jake McHenry
> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:33 PM
> > To: 'John P Verel'
> > Cc: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: Spam
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John P Verel [mailto:jverel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:33 PM
> > > To: Jake McHenry
> > > Cc: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: Spam
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 12/15/03 20:39 -0500, Jake McHenry wrote:
> > > > I'm currently using spamassassin and mailscanner, working
> > > well, but my
> > > > boss doesn't want any spam to get through. I tried telling him
> > that
> > > > it's not going to catch everything, but he doesn't want to
> > > listen. He
> > > > told me to look into mimedefang, which his friend told him
> about.
> > > > 
> > > > Does anyone know if mimedefang is any better or worse than 
> > > > spamassassin?
> > > 
> > > Well, spamassassin does in fact 'de-fang' mime, so you've 
> got that 
> > > already.
> > > 
> > > My experience with spamassassin, which is EXCELLENT, is 
> that the key 
> > > is to move all the false negatives to your spam folder and to
run 
> > > the sa-learn program regularly.  I've also changed my 
> rules set so 
> > > that a Bayes90 hit gets an automatic 5 points.  I've had 1 false

> > > positive in the last month.
> > > Spamassassin has caught between 650 and 700 in each of the 
> > > last three weeks, with I'd guess 10-15 false negatives a week 
> > > (e.g. 1 or 2 a day.)  The number of false negatives keeps 
> > > dropping the more I use sa-learn.
> > > 
> > > Spamassasin is the greatest, IMHO.
> > > 
> > > John
> > > 
> > 
> > Here is my output of sa-learn --dump
> > 
> > [admin@ntlh admin]$ sa-learn --dump
> > Use of uninitialized value in numeric lt (<) at
> > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/BayesStore.pm
> >  line 1281.
> > 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: bayes db
> > version
> > 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: nspam
> > 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: nham
> > 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: ntokens
> > 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: oldest
atime
> > 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: current
> > scan-count
> > 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: last
expiry
> > atime
> > 
> > 
> > I'm running spamassassin 2.60 with mailscanner 4.23
> > 
> > I have bayes enabled in spam.assassin.prefs.conf in the
> > mailscanner directory. It seems to be working for the most 
> > part, I'm getting probably around 80%. None is really being 
> > mis-marked, just missed.
> > 
> > I also have bayes auto learn enabled in the config file, and
> > in the maillog file, I can see the bayes engine is being used:
> > 
> > BAYES_99 19,650 times in the log. Also using DCC and razor2.
> > 
> > What can I do to get my percentage higher? Why isn't the
> > spamassassin dump from above showing anything?
> > 
> > I havn't used sa-learn before, I've just been submitting all
> > missed mail to the razor2 servers.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Jake McHenry
> > Nittany Travel MIS Coordinator
> > http://www.nittanytravel.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> 
> I just did sa-learn --reuild and it got rid of that error line..
Here
> is the new output:
> 
> [root@ntlh MailScanner]# sa-learn --dump
> 0.000          0          2          0  non-token data: bayes db
> version
> 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: nspam
> 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: nham
> 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: ntokens
> 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: oldest atime
> 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: newest atime
> 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: last journal
> sync atime
> 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: last expiry
> atime
> 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: last expire
> atime delta
> 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: last expire
> reduction count
> 
> 
> 
> I'll keep watching it to see if it changes. A lot of spam passes
> through my server, about 40% or 932 messages a day spam alone.
> 
> 
> As to my previous email, what can I do to get more spam caught? I
have
> not received anything from the employees saying they are getting
mails
> marked that shouldn't be, it's that they're getting mails that are
not
> marked that should be.
> 
> Maybe what I just did with the bayes database will fix it?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jake McHenry
> Nittany Travel MIS Coordinator
> http://www.nittanytravel.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Ok, I goofed.. I changed my command to this:

[root@ntlh root]# sa-learn --dbpath /var/spool/spamassassin/ --dump |
more
0.000          0          2          0  non-token data: bayes db
version
0.000          0       8374          0  non-token data: nspam
0.000          0      16771          0  non-token data: nham
0.000          0     121296          0  non-token data: ntokens
0.000          0 1069976819          0  non-token data: oldest atime
0.000          0 1071550901          0  non-token data: newest atime
0.000          0 1071550512          0  non-token data: last journal
sync atime
0.000          0 1071034503          0  non-token data: last expiry
atime
0.000          0    1057726          0  non-token data: last expire
atime delta
0.000          0      53595          0  non-token data: last expire
reduction count
<snip>



I got a LOT of pages of output from this.. Lol so I take it it's
working. So your saying anything that is missed or mis-marked I should
save to a file, then do something like sa-learn --spam or --ham --mbox
filename    correct?

Thanks,
Jake


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