Hi All, I've just joined into the wifi bandwagon with my own 'little' setup and am playing around with it(wifi + internet). What I'm concerned with is the transmission security. (I know there's WEP but AFAIK WEP's useless) I also know about POP mail access being in plaintext, so.. yesterday, I did a little research on what I can "sniff" using ethereal. I tried logging into my ISP's POP mailserver, fetched my email and all that.. I wasn't very suprised when I found ethereal logging my username & Password to the mailserver. I even found that MSN/Gaim/Yahoo Messenger is also transmitting in Plain-text. Some website addresses even shows up in ethereal when I access the internet using the wifi conn. I tried logging into my Yahoo-web-mail and looking at the traffic it generates and trying to see if I'm able to 'sniff" the username&Password. I can see that the username is being transmitted in plain-text, but the password is 'hashed' in some form. The thing is..when one login into the web-based-email-login, you type in your username and the password. What I would like to know is the sequence under which the plaintext password will become hashed before being sent through the internet to Yahoo-mail (eg). It's being sent wirelessly, so.. what happens to the transmission? Does it get hashed by _my_ Computer before being sent out (safer) or is the transmission encrypted (unlikely, since WEP is not enabled). Or.. does it get encrypted/hashed by the Yahoo-mail-server. Does SSL play a role here? (AFAIK, yahoo mail does not use HTTPS protocol) Is there any way for any_one to decipher the transmission to get the username/password combo? Some of the _FREE_ wifi connections I've been on would prompt out a message Like "Transmission between the pC and the Server (radius I presume) is being send wirelessly, there is a chance that it could be intercepted etc..etc.. " What I would like to know is how easy would it be for someone to get the username/password combo and how would he/she do it? And seeing this with my own 2 eyes, I'm _never_ checking my POP mail or perhaps use MSN without SSH/SSL when using Wifi. What about On-Line banking? They use SSL. How _safe_ is that?? Previous to this, using wired, you're afraid he/she's gonna tap your line,now, he/she can be as far as 1000feet away to _tap_ your line!!!! (More if he/she uses a pringle can!) Comments/Advise please. Cheers, .^. Mun Heng, Ow /V\ H/M Engineering /( )\ Western Digital M'sia ^^-^^ DID : 03-7870 5168 The Linux Advocate -- Shrike-list mailing list Shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list