Someone tell me if this is correct: RHL created new releases every 4 - 6 months. Fedora will create new releases every 4 - 6 months. RHL supported one release as long as the next release was active. Fedora will support one release for as long as the following release is active. Therefore RHL constantly supported two simultaneous releases, the current release and the previous release. Fedora is supporting two simultaneous releases, the current release and the previous release. So each release is supported through its active term and through the term of the following release. In my eyes there is no real difference here. I understand that RH is going to eliminate the features which might cause copy write problems. They will still support the Fedora Project and allow more outside assistance with it. I am hoping that Fedora can take over the up3date subscription service so those of us that want to support it can do that little bit anyway. I would also like to see the free up2date service continue as well for those who can't afford to spend a lot on support. At this time, I am guessing that the only two things we have lost are the name Red Hat Linux and the lesser support packages for sale. Buck -----Original Message----- From: shrike-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:shrike-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jesse Keating Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:51 PM To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: The end of RHL for private use? [was: Fedora vs. RHL] On Wednesday 24 September 2003 06:40, Brian T. Brunner wrote: > Rather RH10 is renamed, and is the first release of Fedora, which will > continue much of the tradition, and much of the method, of RHL. > > How much "much" is, is the rest of the beef. The how much is the beef. 4~6 month release cycle (somewhat normal), but errata only supplied for 3~4 months after the next release, giving each Fedora Core release a 7~10 month life span. Also, Fedora will do away with the previous strive to keep binary compatability going, and instead bring in as much new stuff as possible, making rolling updates impossible. Havoc has sated that Desktop users and production environments are no longer the target audience of RHL/Fedora, instead the hobby market is, with fast changes and constant new features. THis makes Fedora all but unusable in any production place, where RHL was still VERY useable, even with it's 1year+ lifespan. The bottom line is, RHL as we know it is gone. Period. In it's place, we have some of the RHL bits, being paired with the Fedora contents, and the start of a rapidly moving, constantly changing hobby distro that is possibly full of breakage. Sound like Gentoo anybody? Those of us that have build our businesses and practices around Red Hat Linux are now left at a choice between forking over _large_ amounts of money that we can't really afford for RHEL, or changing our businesses to go with a different vendor of Linux, one that is undoubtedly lesser quality than RHL of old and RHEL of current, or trying to make Fedora Core a viable solution, putting in tons of man hours to try and maintain backports for customers who just can't change everything every 9~ months. Thats the beef, or at least my part of it. -- Jesse Keating RHCE MCSE http://geek.j2solutions.net Mondo DevTeam (http://www.microwerks.net/~hugo/) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -- Shrike-list mailing list Shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list -- Shrike-list mailing list Shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list