RE: The end of RHL for private use? [was: Fedora vs. RHL]

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Someone tell me if this is correct: 

RHL created new releases every 4 - 6 months.  
Fedora will create new releases every 4 - 6 months.
RHL supported one release as long as the next release was active.
Fedora will support one release for as long as the following release is
active.
Therefore RHL constantly supported two simultaneous releases, the
current release and the previous release.
Fedora is supporting two simultaneous releases, the current release and
the previous release.

So each release is supported through its active term and through the
term of the following release.  In my eyes there is no real difference
here. 

I understand that RH is going to eliminate the features which might
cause copy write problems.  They will still support the Fedora Project
and allow more outside assistance with it.  I am hoping that Fedora can
take over the up3date subscription service so those of us that want to
support it can do that little bit anyway.  I would also like to see the
free up2date service continue as well for those who can't afford to
spend a lot on support.

At this time, I am guessing that the only two things we have lost are
the name Red Hat Linux and the lesser support packages for sale.

Buck

-----Original Message-----
From: shrike-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:shrike-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jesse Keating
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:51 PM
To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: The end of RHL for private use? [was: Fedora vs. RHL]


On Wednesday 24 September 2003 06:40, Brian T. Brunner wrote:
> Rather RH10 is renamed, and is the first release of Fedora, which will

> continue much of the tradition, and much of the method, of RHL.
>
> How much "much" is, is the rest of the beef.

The how much is the beef.  4~6 month release cycle (somewhat normal), 
but errata only supplied for 3~4 months after the next release, giving 
each Fedora Core release a 7~10 month life span.  Also, Fedora will do 
away with the previous strive to keep binary compatability going, and 
instead bring in as much new stuff as possible, making rolling updates 
impossible.  Havoc has sated that Desktop users and production 
environments are no longer the target audience of RHL/Fedora, instead 
the hobby market is, with fast changes and constant new features.  THis 
makes Fedora all but unusable in any production place, where RHL was 
still VERY useable, even with it's 1year+ lifespan.

The bottom line is, RHL as we know it is gone.  Period.  In it's place, 
we have some of the RHL bits, being paired with the Fedora contents, 
and the start of a rapidly moving, constantly changing hobby distro 
that is possibly full of breakage.  Sound like Gentoo anybody?  Those 
of us that have build our businesses and practices around Red Hat Linux 
are now left at a choice between forking over _large_ amounts of money 
that we can't really afford for RHEL, or changing our businesses to go 
with a different vendor of Linux, one that is undoubtedly lesser 
quality than RHL of old and RHEL of current, or trying to make Fedora 
Core a viable solution, putting in tons of man hours to try and 
maintain backports for customers who just can't change everything every 
9~ months.

Thats the beef, or at least my part of it.

-- 
Jesse Keating RHCE MCSE
http://geek.j2solutions.net
Mondo DevTeam (http://www.microwerks.net/~hugo/)

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