It seems that with the xinetd update, it doesn't always properly register imaps. bind failed (Address already in use (errno = 98)). service = imaps i tried a netstat -n | grep 993 and couldn't find anything on it.. try it a few times and it eventually comes up.. go figure :) -- _______________________________________________________________________ Tom Ryan Voice: 856-225-6361 Consulting System Administrator Fax: 856-969-7900 Rutgers School of Law - Camden