On Sun, 13 Apr 2003, Thomas Dodd wrote: >> Keith Packard is quoted as saying that "RH" and Debian were looking for >> changes in XFree86 that apparently weren't happening. Will this move >> benefit Red Hat? Are you all in favor of having, now, 2 implementations >> of X to choose from? (Ala KDE/Gnome, Vim/Emacs, OpenOffice/KOffice/Gnome >> Office, Sun/Blackdown, Mozilla/Konqueror et cetera ad nauseum. I know >> I'm leaving off a bunch.) I guess open source development does what it >> must; sort of a "survival of the fittest," if you will. But it seems to >> me that the Linux community -- as a whole -- duplicates an awful lot of >> effort. > >IU'm guessing the best way to get Mike's take is read waht he has said: >http://fontconfig.org/~keithp/teleconference/ > >He attended all 3 currently listed. >Not sure if he attended as "Red Hat XFree86 Maintainer" or >"XFree86 Developer" trhough. After I read the transcripts I may know. My involvement in the conference calls set up by Keith and Jim, as well as my involvement in the Xwin project are in the role of a volunteer X developer whom is interested in the success of the X Window System and related technologies. I encourage collaborative community oriented projects such as Keith's which have goals aimed at improving the X Window System for the larger community of: 1) Users - everyone out there who is currently using X or who might consider doing so if certain things were done to improve it and meet their needs. 2) X developers - people working on improving X, including XFree86.org developers, driver maintainers outside of XFree86.org, people who contribute patches frequently, people who maintain X in an OS distribution, and others working on X, and XFree86, etc. 3) Integrating technologies - Projects which integrate and interoperate with X11 such as GNOME, KDE, GTK+, Qt, window manager developers, Mozilla and other browser projects, and many other projects which would be considered to be interoperative with X Hope this helps answer your question. Take care, TTYL -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - XFree86 maintainer - Red Hat