Remember that old bandwidth problem from networking class where you calculated if it was faster to FTP a file across the street or just get up from your computer and walk a CD across via "sneakernet"? Well, I tried this exercise for real with Red Hat 9. After a *LOT* of work trying to download ISOs using everything I could find, I also decided to order it from Amazon with express delivery. I planned to do that anyway because I wanted to show the actual box to my Linux class tonight, as well as install it with my students. OK - I also wanted the hard copy manuals and the cool stickers! :) In my case, the download from RHN was faster, but just barely. I just finished upgrading my system with newly burned CDs. I pulled an all-nighter to get it done. According to the package tracking application from Amazon (FedEx), my shrink-wrap boxed set will be here in a couple of hours... At least my system is up and stable. So far, I'm impressed. Cheers, Chris -- ==================================== "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' someone else's dog around." --Cowboy Wisdom