With all the problems I've had with Red Hat 8 - particularly on my server (still not running correctly and updated fully). I've actually considered regressing to 7.2 on my server. Sounds like Red Hat is doing a MS-type end around. Abandon the RH 8.x series and introduce RH 9 because it doesn't have a bad reputation. Tom Winfield -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list