Il mar, 2003-01-28 alle 13:47, Jean Francois Martinez ha scritto: > Le mar 28/01/2003 à 11:26, Mario Torre a écrit : > If my memory is good it is related to Java licensing. In other words > Sun not RedHat is the guilty. Yes, this is true, in fact I'm not accusing Red Hat to be guilty of anything (red hat is a great team, I really love red hat linux 8, and I found myself in promoting linux and red hat, very very often). Java should be open sourced, that's a fact. But there is a difference in removing java from open office and removing java from open office and "deny access to java even in an unsupported way". You could say: just download the open office binary from openoffice.org and go happy! If you are about to sell, say, 100 office installation of linux, with a custom web based service, for example a way to check orders in a database, or whatever else, and you would like to give the office some atomation of this task, you have to install (and configure) 100 times the office suite... While you could have all done in the default installation... This is a fast example, I think many of you can find better ones. And even in this list we hear about people that ask for a good access replacements. Here it is, just use postgres, and open office. And maybe some simple java coding. > Given how long OpenOffice takes to load and how slow it is at relatively > trivial tasks I shudder when thinking about a "complete" > openoffice and still more when thinking that the missing parts would > be i Java. Until the performance problems of openoffice (I am not > suggesting they are in openoffice problem, they could originate in > components used in openoffice) aren't solved, a complete openoffice is > more likely to deter people from using Linux than to attract them. > > > JFM Well I use OO from the 638C build, and I have used StarOffice from the 5.1 release, so I know this problem. If red hat can remove these components to gain speed, can also make these components available as "plugins" (in fact, it is was java and uno are). More over, I have tried both the Mandrake RPM and the Red Hat RPM, and there is no great speed difference (and Mdk have the java components). Ciao, Mario -- Please be aware that I do not read or reply to messages with attachments in any proprietary format. Please send attachments in any standards compliant format. Proprietary format attachments are a major obstacle to the broader adoption of GNU/Linux. Remember: Competition is good for business; Proprietary denies choice.. Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- Please be aware that I do not read or reply to messages with attachments in any proprietary format. Please send attachments in any standards compliant format. Proprietary format attachments are a major obstacle to the broader adoption of GNU/Linux. Remember: Competition is good for business; Proprietary denies choice.. Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
