Re: Sayonara (Was - Re: Dist. Suggestions)

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> Don't mince words.  Binary only modules are binary only modules.   It is
> stupid to think that Red Hat would ship binary modules and
> not ship the source code, or that Red Hat would ship binary
> modules that someone else compiled if source was available.
>
> There was no lack of clarity in what I said.

Can someone please point to me where I demanded proprietry kernel modules?
Please someone help me here cause I don't remember writing that.

I complained of Drivers that are not GPL not being distributed,
by no means are NON-GPL modules proprietary.


>>>
>>> Red Hat got where it is today by following a set of principles
>>> and values that have made it one of the largest and most used
>>> Linux distributions.  Why distribute it all?  Simple, because it is
>>> popular, and gaining more popularity daily - without including binary
>>> only modules.
>>
>>You are still misunderstanding what I am stating, your point was
>>"We can't fix it". The counter point to that is UMMMM you guys
>>have a habit of shipping broken software.  So FIXING software
>>for you guys is sometimes a DEAD DUCK point.
>
> Bullshit.  That is just a pure insult.  It isn't even worth
> reading any further messages that you write.  Welcome to my
> killfile after this message.

Yeah at that point it was a insult Mike, because you kept hounding this
point with out looking at the drivers I was asking for.

>>Hmmmm, this is a great stand to take.
>>Our customers want their computers to work, HA! corporate users want
>> their wireless NICS to work.  What are you gonna say.
>>Let me quote you correctly: "Absolutely and completely totally _NO_.
>> Switch to another distribution that ships it if you must."
>
> Precicely.  You have that option, and are free to exercise it.
>
>
>>I thank god that you are not the CEO of RH, because if you were
>>and or if the CEO does shares your same opinions about overall
>>SOFTWARE SUPPORT & DIST., RH is bound to fail.  That is when you
>>tell the market, screw you we will not PUT ON a seperate CD
>>drivers thar are not GPL (And look into it before you open your
>>mouth, the drivers I am speaking of are OPEN SOURCE just not GPL
>>- http://www.linux-wlan.com/linux-wlan/)
>
> Open source drivers are a different story.  In one breath you are
> demanding we ship proprietary drivers.
Once again where did I say that (The only piece that could be considered
propriety that I asked for was JAVA)



> claiming that they are open source.  Considering that, and

They are MPL, go to the link Mike

> considering your above statements differentiating "binary
> module" and "binary only module" (which are identical in the
> context of the discussion), I don't think you even understand the
> difference.

I do, one is compiled (Binary Module) that you could possible have the
access to the source to.  The other (Binary ONLY module) you don't have
the
source to.


And my reason for insulting you is because you have a condisending way of
dealing w/ people.  PLEASE IF I DID SHOW ME WHERE I ASKED FOR A BINARY
ONLY PROPRIETARY KERNEL MODULE!!!







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