On 11 Nov 2002, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > Cant argue with that but then we would have to include Ireland also. > Irish beer is a fantastic meal in itself. just dont go to England they > cant bowl bat field or make beer. > Hah! Porter (of which Guinness is a variety) was invented in Britain. Admittedly they didn't know a good thing when they saw it and allowed it to pass from their control, but credit where it's due! The UK still makes some excellent beers (Samuel Smith's Old Museum Ale, Boddingtons) and ciders. Personally I find Murphy's Irish Stout superior to Guinness. And I have to add that California can't be beaten for variety and quality of microbrews (Mendocino County especially seems to have a dazzling variety of beers all of excellent quality. Add to this the very civilized aspect of U.S. life that beer can be obtained easily at small local grocery stores and supermarkets and I think that the U.S. wins over Ireland for beer experience. Oisin Feeley -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list