James Jones <jamesjones01@mchsi.com> writes:a > > Fair enough. Is there a date for when the facility will make it into > an update? It depends on how soon I can get it to work (I built new packages and they don't work for some reason), and how many security errata are clogging the QA pipeline. > So far it seems that RedHat has tried to make 8.0 appeal to Windows > users by removing choices and flexibility (no gnorpm, no kpackage, > no ability to switch from one GNOME-compatible window manager to > another using a GUI as in the past). Am I misjudging RH 8.0 in this > respect? (I'd like to use it on the rest of my Linux boxes, but > this is sufficiently irritating that I am starting to think of > switching distributions.) gnorpm was removed because it was the biggest pile of bug reports you have ever seen, and totally unmaintained, not for philosophical reasons. It also required porting to new rpmlib and there was no one to do that. I don't know about kpackage. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?component=gnorpm&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=CLOSED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=MODIFIED&email1=&emailassigned_to1=1&email2=&emailreporter2=1&changedin=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&short_desc=&long_desc=&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard=&qa_whiteboard=&devel_whiteboard=&cmdtype=doit&namedcmd=Desktop+integration&newqueryname=&order=Bug+Number+Ascending&form_name=query How you switch WMs is the same way you switch any other type of application; you run the app, and you save your session. You'd switch the panel or a starts-by-default terminal in the same way. Remember, switching window managers breaks the UI for most users. Many pieces of GNOME won't work anymore, the docs won't match the WM, the keybindings will be gone. There should not be a "break my UI" button. If you know about sessions and how to change the default apps in them, then great, you can choose any WM (or panel or file manager) you want. Since you need half a clue in order to deal with a new WM, you should need half a clue in order to switch to the new WM. It still takes only 5 seconds to switch. Our intent is to appropriately compromise between different kinds of users. Havoc