OK...I double clicked on the little red icon with the exclamation point, and was told that fetchmail, ggv, and gv had updates. Sure, fire up up2date, I said, and clicked on "run up2date". up2date actually got through, grabbed the newer versions, started installing one of them...and hung. up2date sits there, no disk I/O going on, and no updating the window as other windows hide and/or expose it. Any suggestions as to what I should do? It may have made it through installing fetchmail. How can I make sure my system is in a reasonable state? James Jones