Yeah, This is new with RedHat 8.0 - they're now supporting Unicode in the console. It messes up a LOT of things. In my case, the cursor is all messed up and "make menuconfig" is impossible. The RedHat 8.0 Release Notes mentions this but give NO workaround and NO fix for how to run console apps that use line drawing characters. I stole my RedHat 7.3 LANG setting, which was LANG=en_US.iso885915, and now the cursor and menuconfig work great. But, just like you, I have no idea if this is going to mess up anything else. Looks like console Unicode was rushed out the RH 8.0 door without full fixing may console-based apps. I guess we're now in the same boat as all the other non-english-us Linux users who have been struggling with international character support for years. BB. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Zimmerman" <jzimmerman@malyswest.com> To: <psyche-list@redhat.com> Sent: Friday October 11, 2002 14:37 Subject: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 I am running a new install of RH8. I had been having trouble with character display in ncurses displays and man pages. I started comparing some of my variable definitions to those on my 7.3 machine. I noticed that the LANG variable was defined as en_US.UTF-8 on my 8.0 machine, and en_US on my 7.3 machine. I temporarily changed the variable to en_US on my 8.0 machine, and this seemed to resolve the issue. How will this change impact other applications, and where this variable is defined so I can change it globally? Thank you, Jim Zimmerman