Aaaaannnnd another thing, mentioned by others. Every terminal I've tried except gnome-terminal has ... cruft all over the place when, for instance, a man page is viewed. Dashes (like what you type in front of an option letter) and other interesting characters are either gone or rendered by etcha-sketch. OOTB. And where'd rxvt go? On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Thomas Dodd wrote: > Since user aren't supposed to use ifup and ifdown... > Use /usr/sbin/usernetctl instead. > Not sure about the modem-lights applett, I use the lights on > my modem instead :) I'll mod the side of my case when I get a spare moment. :) -- Aaron aaron@justaaron.com aaron@acm.org