Re: Trolling for shuttle sff computer experiences

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Xv (Xvideo) tha API for using the hardware scaler, color space
convertion and video overlay on modern chipsets.

XvMC - extention to Xv to handle hardware based motion compensation and
(I think) IDCT for video overlays.  Only 3 drivers that I know of
support this (i810, VIA's savage driver, and nvidia's binary driver).

Gatos - a project that develops drivers for the video in/out, tv tuner,
etc. functionality for ati all-in-wonder cards.

Mesa - opensource OpenGL library.  forms the basis for the opensource
3D drivers.

DRI - direct rendering infrastructure.  The group that develops
opensource 3D drivers.

Most xfree86 video drivers consist of 1 or 3 parts.  1 for 2D only
drivers, 3 for 2D+3D drivers.

1. the 2D driver - the 2D server handles 2D operations and Xv

2. the 3D driver - the 3D client driver handles 3D direct rendering

3. the DRM kernel module - arbitrates access to video card for 3D (and
in some cases 2D) operations

That should give you the basics.

Alex


--- Bret Hughes <bhughes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 22:57, Alex Deucher wrote:
> > Other than 3D Thomas' sis driver is very flexible and full
> featured,
> > plus some sff boxes based on sis chipsets offer DVI ports (not sure
> > about your model).  The latest code drop from S3/VIA offers good
> > functionality for the savage chip (3D, Xvmc), however it has not
> yet
> > been ported to mesa 5.x.  see the savage-2_0_0 branch in DRI cvs. 
> I'm
> > not sure the savage chips support DVI.  As I recall the video
> engine in
> > the savage chips wasn't the greatest, but that might be overcome by
> > using the Xvmc stuff.  I'm not too familiar with the sis video
> engine
> > performance-wise, but I think it is decent, plus there are a lot of
> Xv
> > related controls that other chipsets don't offer like chromakey and
> > good tv out support.
> > 
> > Add on cards may perform better due to havin discrete memory, but
> few
> > xfree86 drivers support TV out.  The few that come to mind are
> mostly
> > integrated chips (trident, via, savage, sis).
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the additional info.  the shuttle models do have a $40 add
> on
> card that plug into the agp port that provides dvi and tv out
> connections to the onboard video.
> 
> It appears that with the gatos ati.2 driver the radeon 7200 chip has
> good tv out support using their ati.2 driver.  I installed this
> driver
> to get xv support in mplayer on an ati expertLCD (Mach64 based) and
> it
> was dead easy. 
> 
> It also appears that the card will fit into the box which is a good
> thing ;)
> 
> Is there some document that explains the relationship between mesa
> gatos
> xfree86 XvImage Xvideo and all the other names that keep cropping up
> in
> my reading?  Every time I start to think I am beginning to see the
> light, it is another train.  Or even worse I have the feeling I have
> read a decent explaination somewhere and can't get back to it after
> reading another hundred pages or so of information. 
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Bret
> 


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